New Honda Ridgeline...sort of

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So it's going to be a Chevy Traverse with a pickup bed? Just like the Honda Traverse ... erm ... I mean Honda Pilot?

Never thought I would see the day that Honda would copy GM
 
Looks interesting, though I certainly await what the actual road-going vehicle will look like. Too bad they won't put the twin-turbo 3.5L into the street version...or will they?
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
So it's going to be a Chevy Traverse with a pickup bed? Just like the Honda Traverse ... erm ... I mean Honda Pilot?

Never thought I would see the day that Honda would copy GM


You mean the similarity in the grill? I don't think that Honda copied anyone, let alone a Chevy. Honda buyers generally want nothing to do with Chevy....including looks. Honda knows that. But even so, I think styles among all the car makers tend to look similar. You can only design so many different grills...it's likely that one may look similar to another.
The most blatant copies in my mind is Ford copying Land Rover and Bentley. To me that's a shame ...but they did it nonetheless. Why not just be original AND sell cars?
 
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Interestingly enough, the first generation Honda Ridgeline product team was headed up by Gary Flint, the former Chevrolet S-10 product manager. Here he is at the Detroit Auto Show back in 2005:
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Interestingly enough, the first generation Honda Ridgeline product team was headed up by Gary Flint, the former Chevrolet S-10 product manager. Here he is at the Detroit Auto Show back in 2005:



I didn't know that he was from Chevy before Honda hired him.

Rather strange that Honda did that. Even more strange is that in my opinion, the S-10 product line really wasn't known for quality or innovation.
Maybe Honda just wanted a guy that knew a lot about American taste and pickups?

Is he still with Honda?
 
Yeah, I think Honda probably just wanted someone with their pulse on the truck market. I don't see the Ridgeline as a full-size or as a compact truck, but as a mid-size product that blends some aspects of both. Gary Flint might have seen that as an opportunity to break outside of the box (literally) and do something different with a truck product than was likely possible with a company that (at the time) had a very clearly defined picture of a "full-size truck" and a "compact truck".

I don't know if he's still with Honda.
 
Well, regardless if he is or not, I really do hope that Honda has better success with the new Ridgeline. I love my first generation model and have no need to get a new one though. I just think that more variety and choices are almost always a good idea in the vehicle market. With Honda providing a different type of pickup...others may follow if the market insists.
I hope thats the case.
 
I don't have extremely high hopes for it (in terms of being a mainstream success). Trucks like this have consistently failed in the long term. The Subaru Baja is probably the smallest example, and it wasn't all that successful, even when new. The other mainstream one, the Ridgeline's closest competition, is (or I should say "was") the Ford Explorer Sport Trac. The Sport Trac even sported fully independent suspension in its second generation. It was, quite figuratively, a Ford Explorer with a box on the back.

Each of these trucks has fallen to the wayside over time; each has a very passionate following, but by a relatively small number of people. Perception is king, and I think most people perceive these has having no real utility. For owners of them, the truth is very much opposite, but that's the way it is.

I think of them a lot like a Google Chromebook. Some people say, "just get a real computer". Others say, "they don't do more than a tablet, just get a tablet". But there is a small, but devoted, set of people who believe in the niche the Chromebook fills (myself included).

Like a Chromebook, I don't believe a car-based truck will ever be a mainstream success. There are too many competing emotions for many truck buyers. I am glad that some manufacturers like Subaru and Ford and Honda have found a way to participate in this market to some degree. And with Honda re-entering it, and with Fiat looking at it also with a Dakota re-make, there may be some life here, yet. I don't think it'll ever be a top-10 or even top-50 seller.

I am glad they make them, though.
 
It's hard to tell what a street model will look like as you said, but the front end and overall shape does look pretty good. I am interested in seeing them when they actually come out. Not that I'll buy one, but from what I have seen, Honda is making steps in the right direction over the last few years with improving things. Hopefully this follows suit.
 
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
What does this have to do with the Ridgeline?


What are you referring to? The topic and entire thread has something to do with the Ridgeline.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
What does this have to do with the Ridgeline?


What are you referring to? The topic and entire thread has something to do with the Ridgeline.


What exactly does this off road racing vehicle have in common with the new Ridgeline? That was my question. Does it even share any components?
 
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Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
What does this have to do with the Ridgeline?


What are you referring to? The topic and entire thread has something to do with the Ridgeline.


What exactly does this off road racing vehicle have in common with the new Ridgeline? That was my question. Does it even share any components?



It doesn't share much, but that was why on the thread title I put the words..."sort of".

As you may or may not know, definitive info on exactly what the new Ridgeline will look like is scant at best. A few online interpretations have come to light, but nothing absolute. This racing vehicle is modeled loosely after the upcoming Ridgeline and as stated in the article.....it DOES have styling aspects in common with the new model.
So my thread and the subject matter has a relation to the upcoming Ridgeline.

So does that answer your question?
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Interesting. I see a flat top bed rail and a gap between the bed and the body.

I saw that too... maybe they just put a body line there for looks? Kind of a risk though as it would make it more likely to crack in a stressed area already.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Interesting. I see a flat top bed rail and a gap between the bed and the body.


Maybe Honda got tired of people complaining about "it's not a real truck".
 
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Originally Posted By: glock19
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Interesting. I see a flat top bed rail and a gap between the bed and the body.


Maybe Honda got tired of people complaining about "it's not a real truck".

It's too bad Honda didn't do some kind of space frame, then they could proclaim how close it is to a real off road racing truck... Maybe have some folded up Raptors silhouetted in the background during their big superbowl commercial...
Its actually amazing how well trucks these days work with their 1800's tech ladder frame. I'm sure all the engineers responsible for suspension tuning and NVH would love to have a nice solid unitbody to work off of.
 
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