CO2 ? Dissolved oxygen ? Oh my God , this is getting crazy . How about " Top tier water " ? 
New automatic drip coffee maker needed..
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CO2 ? Dissolved oxygen ? Oh my God , this is getting crazy . How about " Top tier water " ?
Nah. These are actually quite simple things that affect the taste of a lot of beverages and don't cost a lot to improve. Hot water sitting around (but not necessarily boiling) for too long releases trapped gases - especially O2. The first time I'd heard of this was in an article on a famous restaurant in my area and the tea service specialist. She said that they used a reverse osmosis filtration system for the water and their dispenser had a aerator to increase oxygen such that there would be more once it was boiled. And the water wasn't allowed to sit like that too long.
Many things can be dissolved in water, including air. When the water is boiled, the dissolved air leaves the water and the result is a flat taste. After boiling water, aerate the water by pouring it back and forth a few times between two containers. This adds air to the water and it will taste better.
Some coffee is stored in one-way bags that are purged with nitrogen and there absolutely is a bloom, and especially so if it's freshly ground.
There are some really weird effects too. We had a wine and coffee event at work (long story) but one coworker brought his new wine aerator - I think a Vinturi - to see if we could tell. We were kind of skeptical whether or not it worked but darned if it didn't qualitatively change it. That being said, it's well know than wine improves with oxidation, and it really sped up the process compared to just keeping a bottle open.
I’ve had the Mr Coffee Optimal brew for I don’t even know how long. 10+ years probably
When I was working(happily retired), we had one of those large restaurant type of coffee makers that would brew 2 at a time and keep 2 HOT on other burners. Funny thing is, I don't remember the brandname of the maker...The coffee was only as good as the person who was making the coffee. If someone other than me made the coffee, it was mediocre and others would agree. When I made the coffee, it was AWESOME!!!! 
And they told me so. 
And they told me so. 
You want one that pumps the water when it reaches the proper temperature. The Ninja and some other similar ones do that. MrCoffee and ones like it do not get the temperature right.
Also grinding your beans will make a big difference.
Lastly weighing the coffee is better than measuring it.
Also grinding your beans will make a big difference.
Lastly weighing the coffee is better than measuring it.
This is correct. You can use a scoop for beans but you need to weigh the scoop and beans and than determine the proper level of beans per scoop per cup.
Yes, some take their coffee seriously and will do anything to achieve the "perfect cup". I found using a Brita pitcher is good enough for me but out of curiosity I tried a water treatment called Third Wave but didn't like it.CO2 ? Dissolved oxygen ? Oh my God , this is getting crazy . How about " Top tier water " ?
https://www.amazon.com/Mineral-Enha...t=&hvlocphy=9024801&hvtargid=pla-817118224268
Technivorm has a five year warrant and I will buy another one if this one ever stops working.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014I5OWCO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have our Bunn on a digital timer so it is only hot in the morning.
I have settled on this unit I could be wrong but to me the cheaper lower model of Mr Coffee uses a cheaper pump. I get great life out of one so simple to program and great Coffee from it. I’m thinking just over 30bucks at Wal mart.
I am not one who won’t spend the money if the above Bunn coffee maker made a better cup I’d be all over it. We have the above suggested Bunn at the shop because it brews a fast pot not because it brews a better cup I and many others do not believe it does.
I am not one who won’t spend the money if the above Bunn coffee maker made a better cup I’d be all over it. We have the above suggested Bunn at the shop because it brews a fast pot not because it brews a better cup I and many others do not believe it does.
I "Stole" a Technivorm moccamaster for $159 back in 2010.. havent really looked back.
Had to replace the water arm that corroded from deposits after 8 years (from before I used RO water)
Still going strong.. their parts are expensive and hard to find but available.
I sold my Bunn speedbrew. I make alot of half pots and its the worst for that.
tried plugging parts of the showerhead with a couple toothpicks but it didnt work great.
Coffee isnt meant to be brewed in 1.5mins.. esp fresh beans that are water repellent for 30s or so.
When I shared a house and we needed full pots it worked great. (2008 ish)
I have a behmor coffee roaster but their first few version of coffee maker were plagued by durability issues.
I picked up a bonavita from sams club off their clearance shelf as a backup for 40$ and it makes GREAT coffee.
It uses a basket style filter and wide area showerhead.. The thermos it brews into is a PITA to pour out of otherwise
its 99% as good as the techivorm moccamaster also it has an infusion mode to presoak the grounds by holding the power
switch for 3s to activate it (I have dumb model just power switch on it)
Its just me with the coffee so my usual process is this.
Fill with 20oz of RO water, grind beans(1wk to 4wk old)- Current beans https://invalsacoffee.com/products/bol-peaberry < very high quality beans from this importer.
turn on coffee maker.. wait for a couple spurts of water to saturate the beans
turn off for 30s, turn back on , pour into preheated Zojirushi Stainless Steel Mug.
https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-SM-KHE48AG-Stainless-Steel-16-Ounce/dp/B005PO9T44
Had to replace the water arm that corroded from deposits after 8 years (from before I used RO water)
Still going strong.. their parts are expensive and hard to find but available.
I sold my Bunn speedbrew. I make alot of half pots and its the worst for that.
tried plugging parts of the showerhead with a couple toothpicks but it didnt work great.
Coffee isnt meant to be brewed in 1.5mins.. esp fresh beans that are water repellent for 30s or so.
When I shared a house and we needed full pots it worked great. (2008 ish)
I have a behmor coffee roaster but their first few version of coffee maker were plagued by durability issues.
I picked up a bonavita from sams club off their clearance shelf as a backup for 40$ and it makes GREAT coffee.
It uses a basket style filter and wide area showerhead.. The thermos it brews into is a PITA to pour out of otherwise
its 99% as good as the techivorm moccamaster also it has an infusion mode to presoak the grounds by holding the power
switch for 3s to activate it (I have dumb model just power switch on it)
Its just me with the coffee so my usual process is this.
Fill with 20oz of RO water, grind beans(1wk to 4wk old)- Current beans https://invalsacoffee.com/products/bol-peaberry < very high quality beans from this importer.
turn on coffee maker.. wait for a couple spurts of water to saturate the beans
turn off for 30s, turn back on , pour into preheated Zojirushi Stainless Steel Mug.
https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-SM-KHE48AG-Stainless-Steel-16-Ounce/dp/B005PO9T44
That is what the SCA recommended coffee maker list is for.. they do make better coffee.
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We had a Bunn for several years. It was fine. I had cheaper coffee makers before that. I've finally settled on an electric kettle and a french press. It doesn't take much more work and to me the coffee is superior. I have a large stainless french press and a carafe to put the coffee into to keep it hot once it has been made.
If I ever went with a drip again, I'd really like to try a Technivorm Moccamaster. They are pricey but are supposed to work very well and last a long time.
If I ever went with a drip again, I'd really like to try a Technivorm Moccamaster. They are pricey but are supposed to work very well and last a long time.
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CO2 ? Dissolved oxygen ? Oh my God , this is getting crazy . How about " Top tier water " ?
If you are drinking regular ground coffee from MJB or Folgers or whoever then you won’t notice this as their coffee is lower grade.
The best cup of coffee I stumbled up on was when I used distilled water for the heck of it.Makes a great pot of coffee without the chlorine and whatever is in tap water.
Some coffee people recommend that at the least a little bit of tap (or filtered) water be used because mineral free water may not be idea for flavor. Of course hard water does a job on equipment leaving deposits everywhere.
Yes, can second this. The Technivorm is worth every penny. Have had one for a decade or so, it is great. We mainly use the espresso machine, but when we make drip coffee it is with the Moccamaster.
What's an MJB ?
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