New 2024 Toyota Tacoma T24a-fts
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I have a 23 Lexus RX350 with the same engine, bought new. I changed the original oil at 1,000 miles using M1 0W-20 and changed it again at 5,000 miles with PUP 5W-30. I am not concerned about a warrantee issue using a heavier weight oil for a few reasons, the main one being is that heavier weight oils are allowed for this same vehicle in other countries. This information is easy to find- check out the Australian Owners Manual. This engine has a timing chain and a turbo which I feel benefit from an oil with a higher HTHS than a 0W-20 oil provides. Plus, I push the engine hard and definitely fall within the "severe duty" category.
Personally, I plan on sticking to no more than 5,000 mile oci's and will stick to a 5W-30. Even in the colder climate that I live in, I had no starting issues last winter using this weigh.
Here is some information on the engine that you might find interesting: https://www.toyota-club.net/files/faq/21-09-20_faq_t24-engine_en.htm.
Personally, I plan on sticking to no more than 5,000 mile oci's and will stick to a 5W-30. Even in the colder climate that I live in, I had no starting issues last winter using this weigh.
Here is some information on the engine that you might find interesting: https://www.toyota-club.net/files/faq/21-09-20_faq_t24-engine_en.htm.
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It has a dual type injection system.
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Thanks!
On my 24 Tundra I plan on 5K changes. One by me and one by the dealer since I paid for the prepaid maintenance. I probably uses M1 EP and Toyota oil.
Data of what sort? That type of comparison is very expensive to obtain. I seriously doubt anyone on here would have the resources to obtain such data.
Congrats! Nice truck!
HPL: 0w-30 and an OEM filter every 6 months (Spring and Fall while the weather is agreeable)
We have a 2022 Lexus NX 350 Turbo with the same engine. I also agree with the comments on HTHS for the turbo and timing chain.
I run Mobil 1 0W-30 ESP with a Fram Endurance filter (5k on oil, 10k on filter). It's an easy engine and a pleasure to drive.
I run Mobil 1 0W-30 ESP with a Fram Endurance filter (5k on oil, 10k on filter). It's an easy engine and a pleasure to drive.
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No, and the way I understand how the regulations work, the oil grade used for the fuel economy certification is the only grade of oil the manufacturer can list (in the USA).
The 2024 Tacoma in the USA stipulates using 0W-20 GF-6A, API SP oil.
But the identical engine used in other vehicles, sold elsewhere, tells a different story. 0W-20 to 10W-30, and API SL, SM, SN, SN+ or SP are fine. This is from the UK owner's manual for the Highlander, using the T24A-FTS engine:
Lexus NX350 2022+, also using T24A-FTS engine. Australian owners manual:
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Amsoil or HPL 0W-30 or 5W-30, every 5k. Do initial oil change at 1k miles
Nice yota! I also agree with the Mobil 1 route.
Nice to see some new life to this thread. I think that Toyota/Lexus models will likely be using this engine for at least a few more years across their product line, so it would be beneficial to identify some good oil alternatives to what the US owner's manual recommends.
@SimpleSyrup: spot on and exactly what I was saying on my last post; thanks for posting this information. To add to this, I think that it is interesting to note that oil recommendations in owner's manuals in years past have changed from "5W-30 will provide good fuel economy and engine protection" (2011 Volvo XC60 T6) to "0W-20 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good cold starting in cold weather" (2023 Lexus RX350). Note the lack of "engine protection" in the Lexus's owner's manual..........
At this time I am on my 4th oil change at around 13,800 miles and currently still using PUP 5W-30. Once I reach around 4K miles on the current oil I will do a UOA using an Oil Analyzers test to check for fuel dilution, more than anything else. If this engine is not a significant dilutor I will probably switch to either Amsoil or HPL 0W-30 or 5W-30 and push the OCI's a bit beyond 5K's; maybe 7-8K's. If it is a significant dilutor I will probably stick to PUP 5W-30. Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 is also being considered.
To each their own, of course, and different driving styles and climates play into such a decision. But for me, being a "spirited" driver, I am more interested in engine protection long term versus a miniscule increase in fuel economy.
@SimpleSyrup: spot on and exactly what I was saying on my last post; thanks for posting this information. To add to this, I think that it is interesting to note that oil recommendations in owner's manuals in years past have changed from "5W-30 will provide good fuel economy and engine protection" (2011 Volvo XC60 T6) to "0W-20 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good cold starting in cold weather" (2023 Lexus RX350). Note the lack of "engine protection" in the Lexus's owner's manual..........
At this time I am on my 4th oil change at around 13,800 miles and currently still using PUP 5W-30. Once I reach around 4K miles on the current oil I will do a UOA using an Oil Analyzers test to check for fuel dilution, more than anything else. If this engine is not a significant dilutor I will probably switch to either Amsoil or HPL 0W-30 or 5W-30 and push the OCI's a bit beyond 5K's; maybe 7-8K's. If it is a significant dilutor I will probably stick to PUP 5W-30. Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 is also being considered.
To each their own, of course, and different driving styles and climates play into such a decision. But for me, being a "spirited" driver, I am more interested in engine protection long term versus a miniscule increase in fuel economy.
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Any off the shelf oil will be fine. Ford has spec’d regular API SN/SP syn blend for their small eco boost engines with turbos and timing chains. I’m sure Toyota can at least keep up
GF-6 includes more stringent requirements to protect timing chains while using very thin, fuel efficient oils.
Oils must disperse small, dense soot particles that stretch the chains.
Here is the vital aspect, over lack of viscosity.
Oils must disperse small, dense soot particles that stretch the chains.
Here is the vital aspect, over lack of viscosity.
I have a little over 10k on my 24 Tacoma. I am a few changes in, and just switched to HPL 5w30 PCMO. The motor now feels smooth as silk too. I'll probable switch to the HPL 0w30, but I have to work through a couple cases of the 5w30 first. I have similar concerns as you as far as OCI, I plan to keep this truck 10-15 years so I want to go a little overboard. Running a good off the shelf M1 ect, oil, 4-5k is pretty conservative but was my plan. Now running HPL, I will probably go 5-6k and not worry if I go a little over that, due to being busy. I know the oils are good for longer than that, I just do not want any sludge, varnish or piston deposits if I can help it and I think that keeping OCI's short, especially HPL should help with that.
Now my non turbo 4runner, whith a long proven and solid engine, gets HPL and will probably get changed around 10k+. Oh, BTW, If you put 5.9 Qts in, it will be a little over filled (with filter change) Add a little over 5 qts and check. I think my truck uses about 5.4.
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Now my non turbo 4runner, whith a long proven and solid engine, gets HPL and will probably get changed around 10k+. Oh, BTW, If you put 5.9 Qts in, it will be a little over filled (with filter change) Add a little over 5 qts and check. I think my truck uses about 5.4.
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