neighbor vandalized my floodlight, my options?

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I am still here guys. Weekends are really busy with my 3 year old and 6 week old son.

So my weirdo neighbor cut his grass Friday afternoon, he knows about the camera on the side of the house. When he was cutting the grass, he was cutting the grass backwards to avoid the camera so I couldn't see his face.
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When my video camera motion detector went off and I saw it, I *****. seriously? He was dragging his lawn mower backwards with one arm while he was cutting. It didn't appear natural at all. At night, there appears to be a bright light emitting from his backyard, I think he is trying to blind my video camera with light. I'm not sure, I hope not, it would take a 500 watt batman spotlight to do it. That would be too obvious!

I'm about to water my new arbor vitae trees that I planted up against the fence last week. I can't wait until they grow 8-10 feet tall to block my view of his windows. He planted three cypress trees up against the fence as well.

I have seen some advice about the lights. I re-aimed and used 45 watt Par 38 bulbs. I didn't want to use CFL bulbs non-flood lights only, I believe they won't last in the elements. I didn't want motion detector, it would be pretty much turning them off. I have all four corners on at night. since vandalism has occurred, it makes sense to have them on even more now.

There's talk that I'm not manning up by not talking to him. If he wants to talk, he can knock my door anytime during the day. He would be foolish to report the floodlights to the HOA AFTER he vandalized my light fixture. I truly believe I am not escalating the situation. I am taking the high road here. I did not call police, I did not have the HOA to send him a nasty letter, and I didn't vandalize his property in retaliation. Although, I thought some round up weed killer in his rose garden would be perfect. I kid! I Kid!
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I notice he still closes his kitchen windows at night when my 45 watt floodlights are on. So maybe he thinks I can see inside his house at night. I did talk to my neighbor on the other side of me, he's great. I asked him point blank if my floodlights bothered him, he said no. He said no one in his family said anything about it. This weirdo neighbor might think I'm trying to harass him with my floodlights and ruin his night sky or I'm doing it to be a total jerk. which is not the case at all.
 
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Originally Posted By: hpb
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
When the OP saw his neighbor watching him from behind the bush between their houses while he was installing the video camera, he should of said something like, "Hi neighbor, I need to talk to you about something." and see what he would have said. The OP then could have said something like "I don't think you like my lights shining towards your place at night - sorry about that - but was wondering of you were vandalizing them because of that. As you can see, I've installed lower wattage bulbs and have re-aimed them so they don't spill over on your property." Then see how the neighbor reacts to that. He will either come around and say he did and apologize and offer to pay for the damage, or he'll get all belligerent and go off the deep end or just run back inside his house. Former reaction says he's pretty normal, latter two reaction says he's a nut case.



That would probably work fairly well....IF the weirdo wouldn't turn and dart back into his house (which I think is what he would have done).


When I suggested doing this, I was asked if I'd bothered to read the previous 27 pages...and yes, Andrew, I have read them, thanks for asking
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Why you're most welcome!
 
Glad to see you haven't stopped keeping us up to date about your issues....

.....you ARE manning up and walking the fine line so that you can still live next to the moron, yet have a sense of reasonable security that he will control himself or pay the consequences if he trespasses or destroys your property again. It was VERY important that you didn't stop using your lights aimed in a reasonable manner, and also more importantly YOU have not given him the upper hand by caving and approaching him when he was the one that committed crimes and violated your sense of security in your own home. The ball IS in his court let him deal with it.
 
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
... and also more importantly YOU have not given him the upper hand by caving and approaching him when he was the one that committed crimes and violated your sense of security in your own home.


I highly doubt a vandalizer is going to approach someone he's vandalized and strike up a conversation about it all. Therefore, if there is ever going to be a face-to-face talk about the issue, it will have to be initiated by the OP. I wouldn't describe the OP as giving the vandilizer the "upper hand" and "caving" just because he confronts the guy with a discussion about what's been going on.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix


I highly doubt a vandalizer is going to approach someone he's vandalized and strike up a conversation about it all. Therefore, if there is ever going to be a face-to-face talk about the issue, it will have to be initiated by the OP. I wouldn't describe the OP as giving the vandilizer the "upper hand" and "caving" just because he confronts the guy with a discussion about what's been going on.


And who gives a darn?

As far as I would be concerned if this keeps the
perp next door from doing any more damage, trespassing, or harassing that would be just fine. If it were me I'd be pleased as could be if the idiot never said a word to me at all and just kept from causing any more problems.
 
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
I'm glad I don't live near many of the members here...


Same.

Amazingly our arguably most bat-*bleep* crazy member is in this thread calling somebody else insane and himself normal. Even by BITOG standards this has gone very much off-side.
 
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix


I highly doubt a vandalizer is going to approach someone he's vandalized and strike up a conversation about it all. Therefore, if there is ever going to be a face-to-face talk about the issue, it will have to be initiated by the OP. I wouldn't describe the OP as giving the vandilizer the "upper hand" and "caving" just because he confronts the guy with a discussion about what's been going on.


And who gives a darn?

As far as I would be concerned if this keeps the
perp next door from doing any more damage, trespassing, or harassing that would be just fine. If it were me I'd be pleased as could be if the idiot never said a word to me at all and just kept from causing any more problems.


Sad but I agree.
 
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: NYSteve
CuteHumor,
If you decide to talk to him (on your property or his), make sure you record the conversation. It would not be unheard of for him to falsely accuse you of pulling a knife, threatening him, etc. It's happened before...


Each state and territory has its own statutes regarding the recording of conversations. Most state wiretapping and eavesdropping laws are based upon the federal law and allow recording with the consent of one party to the conversation.

The 37 states which allow “one party consent” recording of oral communications are: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming. The District of Columbia also allows people to record conversations with the consent of only one party. Nevada has a one party consent statute but there is some question as to how the law should be interpreted by the courts – it could be considered an “all party consent” state.

The 12 states which definitely require all parties to a conversation to consent before it can be recorded are: California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. (In California, there is an exception – you can record a conversation with the consent of only one party if certain criminal activity (kidnapping, extortion, bribery or a violent felony) is involved.)


I intentionally omitted the one-party vs. two-party consent laws as my only concern was protecting the OP from untrue claims from the neighbor that he threatened violence. In the case the neighbor claims the OP pulled a knife, gun or threatened him with bodily harm, the recording will be the only evidence the OP has to counteract these false claims. Additionally in this hypothetical situation, the neighbor would have called 911 first and the OP again, would be in a defensive position to explain how something didn't happen. I would rather see him deal with the consent law (which mostly likely has a low probability of prosecution) vs. felony which would cost substantial money, time and he still might be found guilty or forced to plead guilty.

TL;DR - Glad to see the OP has video up as this will now protect him from unfounded allegations.
 
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix


I highly doubt a vandalizer is going to approach someone he's vandalized and strike up a conversation about it all. Therefore, if there is ever going to be a face-to-face talk about the issue, it will have to be initiated by the OP. I wouldn't describe the OP as giving the vandilizer the "upper hand" and "caving" just because he confronts the guy with a discussion about what's been going on.


And who gives a darn?

As far as I would be concerned if this keeps the
perp next door from doing any more damage, trespassing, or harassing that would be just fine. If it were me I'd be pleased as could be if the idiot never said a word to me at all and just kept from causing any more problems.


Sounds like you're living the OP's life ... you got way too much emotion into this thing. LoL
 
Once again we see the true colors of *everybody*; the other side of this drama (if there was one) was clamped down on the very first hour it was posted. However *this* topic has been going on for months and has been one of the most popular in this forum.
 
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Once again we see the true colors of *everybody*; the other side of this drama (if there was one) was clamped down on the very first hour it was posted. However *this* topic has been going on for months and has been one of the most popular in this forum.



Actually today is the post's one month anniversary. It has reached epic status though.
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the soap opera appears to be winding down.48 pages, and over 21k views.
what will happen next?
will the op become pregnant?
WHO is the father? about now, we need some background organ music.
will there be agonizing over a possible abortion?
will the neighbor bring the op cookies?
will the neighbor go on a shooting spree, after the op pees in his car's cowl?
tune in tomorrow to find out.
 
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As far as I would be concerned if this keeps the
perp next door from doing any more damage, trespassing, or harassing that would be just fine. If it were me I'd be pleased as could be if the idiot never said a word to me at all and just kept from causing any more problems.

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Sounds like you're living the OP's life ... you got way too much emotion into this thing. LoL



No, but I have dealt with whacko neighbors just like the OP has, and my results were that things were settled when the LEOs were called and shown video of the perp trespassing and destroying my property on two occasions. The police arrested him and off to jail he went.
Charges were filed and pressed, he was found guilty. No more problems since then and that was over three years ago.
 
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Originally Posted By: yeti
the soap opera appears to be winding down.48 pages, and over 21k views.
what will happen next?
will the op become pregnant?
WHO is the father? about now, we need some background organ music.
will there be agonizing over a possible abortion?
will the neighbor bring the op cookies?
will the neighbor go on a shooting spree, after the op pees in his car's cowl?
tune in tomorrow to find out.

and now a few words from our sponsor...
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
yeti,

It could have been zero pages if the OP would of talked to the guy face to face when it first happened.

I'm just saying...
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or, if the neighbor would have seen the op about the lights in the first place.either way, opinions vary.
but,then this soap opera would not have happened.this is great entertainment.
personally, I'd be embarrassed to go on the 'net and ask for help about such a petty problem. we were taught ,as
kids, to deal with situations on our own. again, opinions vary.have a good night, all
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
yeti,

It could have been zero pages if the OP would of talked to the guy face to face when it first happened.

I'm just saying...
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Nobody knows what would have happened.

It could have been a disaster. The OP could have been rudely insulted at the least....or attacked at worst.

Then how many pages? Fifty?

You just never know with strange people.
 
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