Need to buy NON Mercon "V", where? Which brand?

[Fordiesel69]

I have 2 E4OD's and 2 AOD trannies. I have read somewhere that the mercon v is not suitable even though ford says it is. A few guys have actually roasted their E4OD's using it because the the high amount of anti shudder additive.

Where can I can a non universal, non "v" fluid?

 

[Fordiesel69]

BTW, Ford is a liar, they published bulletins stating NOT to use them universally, then they changed it. I find that a scam.

 

[Bill in Utah]

I've been using the 4 quart Supertech Mercon for $9.97 at Walmart in the Contour.

It also states NOT to use the "V" spec...

Bill

 

[brianl703]

I've never quite understood how any ATF could claim to be Mercon AND Mercon V rated if it doesn't work properly in all Mercon applications, and furthermore why Ford would approve/license such an ATF for both applications.

It doesn't happen anymore now that Ford no longer licenses any Mercon fluids, but it was happening.

 

[Trav]

The red Valvoline Max Life jug has Dexron/Mercon spec but i don't see Mercon V anywhere.

 

[SuperDave456]

Mercon SP and LV are backwards comparable to Mercon V.

I have used Maxlife Dex/Merc in a lot of applications and have nothing but good things to say.

Check out Valvoline's website, it's a good HM full synthetic.
http://www.valvoline.com/products/consum...ission-fluid/37

Exceeds the latest performance requirements of DEXRON®-VI and MERCON LV® fluids
Recommended for use in GM, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai and others where DEXRON®III or MERCON fluid is specified
Suitable for use in:
Ford MERCON®, MERCON®V, MERCON®SP and MERCON®LV applications
GM DEXRON®-II, DEXRON®-III and DEXRON®-VI applications
Nissan/Infiniti Matic D, Matic J, Matic K, and Matic S applications
Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II and SP-III applications
Hyundai/ KIA SP-II, SP-III, SP-IV and SPH-IV applications
Subaru ATF and ATF-HP applications
Toyota/Lexus Type T, T-III, T-IV and WS (except hybrids) applications
Honda/Acura ATF-Z1 (except in CVTs) applications
Allison C4 and TES-389 applications
Mercedes Benz NAG1 applications
Volvo passenger car applications and STD 1273.41
Volkswagen TL52162
Voith H55.6335.33(G607) and H55.6335.33(G1363) applications

 

[unDummy]

Originally Posted By: Fordiesel69
BTW, Ford is a liar, they published bulletins stating NOT to use them universally, then they changed it. I find that a scam.


No, they simply reformulated the recipe and requirements for Mercon-V.

Originally Posted By: Fordiesel69
I have 2 E4OD's and 2 AOD trannies. I have read somewhere that the mercon v is not suitable even though ford says it is. A few guys have actually roasted their E4OD's using it because the the high amount of anti shudder additive.
Where can I can a non universal, non "v" fluid?


Those "few guys" had other issues. Definitely not the fluids fault, and most likely an E40D issue!

Use Mercon-V.

BTW, there are plenty of Dex/Merc clones that could've been used. You can find it at your local auto parts and department stores.

And, if you want full synthetic, use:
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atd.aspx
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=50&pcid=9

 

[bmod305]

Napa Oil part# 75-200. It is Dex III/Mercon made by Ashland(Valvoline). Available at 6000plus stores.

Dave

 

[Fordiesel69]

Guys,

I know napa has everything, but its a no go here in my town, and a darn shame. Our napas are ran by theives. $5.64 per qt I just called.

I want just a plain old mercon / dexron III. No need for a "fits all". And by the way I did read a very trusted website that had an article on the AOD/AOD-E/4R70W and until the 4R70W was designed the older clutches did not like the mercon V. It was mentioned in lots of articles in 2005-2007 that I read.

 

[Gearhead113]

My local Kragen/O'reily's has valvoline dexronIII/Mercon in a gallon jug for about $13 From what I understand it's just that, plain old Mercon. I've been using it my old Ford trucks (and older GM cars that require dexronIII) and have no complaints so far.

 

[bmod305]

Wow $5.64 quart. Our 5 store group sells it for $2.99 qt. Either they are very "proud" of their parts or the counter person quoted you for Mercon V not std Mercon; Napa oil also makes a Mercon V oil. We get $4.69 a quart for it. I'm sorry but I don't remember the part number for Mercon V.

Dave

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: Fordiesel69
Guys,

I know napa has everything, but its a no go here in my town, and a darn shame. Our napas are ran by theives. $5.64 per qt I just called.

I want just a plain old mercon / dexron III. No need for a "fits all". And by the way I did read a very trusted website that had an article on the AOD/AOD-E/4R70W and until the 4R70W was designed the older clutches did not like the mercon V. It was mentioned in lots of articles in 2005-2007 that I read.



Chevron or Havoline MD-3

 

[Christian_89LSC_96XJR]

Ford had some issues with their own (Motorcraft) early Mercon V formulation if I recall correctly - I think they warned in a later TSB about using the Motorcaft Mercon V that came in the black bottle in the AOD and E4OD - the Mercon V in the red bottle was supposed to be ok. Later on Ford started allowing Mercon V for the older automatic transmission and then discontinued licensing of Mercon.
Also, Ford (and Jaguar) had some issues with the early Mercon V (factory fill - might have been the same as the black bottle version) in the 5R55 family of transmission - the fluid attacked some components in the shift solenoids - Ford came out with a fluid that dealers where supposed to add to those transmissions to neutralize the negative effects of the factory fill.
I but would NOT use any old (let's say pre 2005) Mercon V fluid.

 

[Nick R]

Mercon V is what came in, and is recommended for the AOD in our expedition, and it works just fine for the past 67,000 miiles.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Nick R
Mercon V is what came in, and is recommended for the AOD in our expedition, and it works just fine for the past 67,000 miiles.


Nick:

You have a 4R70W, not the AOD. The AOD is what is in my old Lincoln! LOL!