my motor oil tastes have changed over the years

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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted by Patman
We definitely don't see many oil rebates here, I can't recall any for Mobil 1 at all, and the Pennzoil one that's going on this year is the only one I can remember. Hopefully that changes in the future.


Look here second one this year.

https://mobiloil.com/en/promotion/mobil-promotions



The second one in the US, but still zero for Canada from Exxon Mobil.
 
Originally Posted by Patman
We definitely don't see many oil rebates here, I can't recall any for Mobil 1 at all, and the Pennzoil one that's going on this year is the only one I can remember. Hopefully that changes in the future.

Usually they wind up being set up only for an oil change done at a shop, or timed when CT is asking $60 a jug.
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Originally Posted by Garak
Originally Posted by Patman
We definitely don't see many oil rebates here, I can't recall any for Mobil 1 at all, and the Pennzoil one that's going on this year is the only one I can remember. Hopefully that changes in the future.

Usually they wind up being set up only for an oil change done at a shop, or timed when CT is asking $60 a jug.
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So what I hear you saying is you could have save yourself 25 to 30 dollars if you shopped ahead and at least had a 1 jug stash?
 
In that case, though, the receipt will be the wrong date for the rebate.
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I do stash oil. I just extremely rarely see a mail in rebate for Canada. Most of the Shell ones I've seen have been for shop service only, with only lately a couple being for purchases. The first "purchase" one I saw was for one litre bottles, which doesn't help, either. The last rebate I actually cashed in on was an Anco wiper deal.
 
I used to service 4 cars back in the mid 2000's. At the time you could get SM conventional oil (Exxon Superflo, Chevron Supreme, Motorcraft Semi-Synthetic, PYB) for $.49 to $1/quart on sale/clearance . At various times I would buy a case or two to the point I had an oil stash of 6 cases of oil. Life events changed quickly to where I only had to service my car only. I am still using the oil for 6K changes or less, which is a years interval for me. I am not concerned it is conventional oil or 10 years old. My vehicle has a Honda K24 engine, it runs fine and doesn't burn any oil in 6K change intervals.

For my situation, it works for me.
 
My first vehicles I used Havoline oil

When I purchased my first mustang,I used Mobil 1 synthetic.

When I bought my Explorer, I used Amsoil XL and then finally Royal Purple HPS
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Slowing converting everything over to Schaeffers oil now,in the Escape and the Mustang
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted by Garak
Originally Posted by Patman
We definitely don't see many oil rebates here, I can't recall any for Mobil 1 at all, and the Pennzoil one that's going on this year is the only one I can remember. Hopefully that changes in the future.

Usually they wind up being set up only for an oil change done at a shop, or timed when CT is asking $60 a jug.
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So what I hear you saying is you could have save yourself 25 to 30 dollars if you shopped ahead and at least had a 1 jug stash?



The issue with hoarding is members start to stash more than they could use it 10 years. Some people just dont have to storage space for such endeavors. Finally there are ones who simply do not want to hoard.

The bottom line you are accomplishing nothing by continuing to preach every 10th post.
 
My wife and I were hoarders. Comes from not having much spare cash around and kind people giving us "stuff". Kept them from having to go to the dump.

It took years to get rid of all that "stuff" and it was hard to pitch it.

It doesn't make sense to hoard oil only ending up with a stash of SM or SL oil. I let the stores keep up my stock...
 
Mine have changed just from time on this orb. When I started fooling with cars (8th B'day present was a 38 Dodge sedan to play cops and robbers, Elliot Ness, etc.), I knew less than nothing. Got my first driver at 13 and snuck out onto the roads after countless laps around the ranch(s). Knew a bit more, like keep the crankcase full if you want the motor to last more than a day.

Started driving ranch trucks with an Ag license at 14 and change. Uncles were pretty strict about pre-load checks including oil and water (before coolant was thing). Saw some old trucks puke rods and stuff from over rev'ing (not me), and all us kids learned about rebuilds because that was a winter thing - trucks, tractors, sprayers, etc. One uncle had me help him o'haul a 56 Pontiac Star Chief (248 as I recall ...). We had to oil everything. Used fleet oils from Jobbers. Flying A - Tidewater back then. Superseded by Phillips 66 as I got to HS.

Worked the lube room at the local Phillips 66 station some days, Whittakers Garage other days after HS classes were done - sweeping floors and twisting wrenches. Everyone knew about oil and what worked and what didn't. They'd all tell me their pet theories. Anyone remember "Speedol"? All us guys that worked there dipped into the "drippings barrel" - the barrel we drained the last of every oil "can" into. Thoroughly mixed oils from our stock and new that customers brought in for their changes. Our street cars ran fine on mixed - never looked back
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Started building go-faster cars by 17 and started running at Fremont Raceway drag strip on weekends when not working. Learned about aeration and oil starvation, spun bearings, etc. By the time I got to JC, I was driving a 390 4-speed Merc S55 and running high 12's. Buddies had 406 Fords and a few had Olds or Pontons. Cousins were running FI 327's in 57 Chevy or a 383 Mopar in a 57 Ford. We built sleepers and raced on the street a lot.

You learned through carnage what what worked and what did not. Most cars back then were done at 125K ...

Got into heavy trucking after a few more years. Tanking mostly in my Pete. Small cam Cummins with a turbo and 5&4. Hauled all over Cali and up into Canada once with all sorts of petro products. Used to deliver "bright stock" a lot to lube blenders like EF Houghton (drilling fluids and machine shop oils) and Pennzoil Alameda. Pennz would buy in bright stock from the other majors and make final fluids in their batch plant. Learned a lot from those guys. Even though they were slightly more expensive, the truck plants and the big buss fleets wanted their oil. I-H, Pete and Mack all had plants in the SF Bay Area and they all bought Pennz lubes for the underground tanks for FF. They all pulled out before the switch to Chevron products really got going ...

I was running Sta-Lube products mostly for the race cars and the street vehicles. Torco in the bikes. Some Phillips 66 racing oils in the big Fords as they could starve bottom ends and spin bearings. It helped, but mostly it was just better machine work and better assembly. Restricting oil flow to the top end to keep the cranks happy, etc.

Then I got to haul as an indy for Chevron for a while. Whole new education. Those guys wanted me to be able to talk about their products with the big ranchers and fleet operators I delivered to. I read their studies with the State Fleet Admin on 10's of thousands of vehicles. Fe numbers for various oils and cost benefit ratios for Supreme out to 6K, even in the middle 1970's. Their stuff was no joke, and a lot of fleet managers spec'd Chevron fluids for mixed fleet operations. That's when I started to become a Delo fan.

When I moved to marine engineering we were under contract with Shell, so I got an ear full about Rotella products. Once you see the study numbers and compare, you soon realize that there are only subtle differences. Can they make a difference - yes. Is it pronounced - no. But the first Muni buss to go 1,000,000 miles in the SF Bay Area was a East Bay Transit 8V-92 on Pennzoil. That put a marker down for the others. Chevron took that seriously and posted the first 1,000,000 mile CAT truck diesel not long afterwards. Low wear numbers were the holy grail, and I guess they still are... These guys play hard ball with fleet mangers.

So we can all talk about favs and all ... And saving a bit of energy using thinner, etc. But I want longevity. The savings in fuel for a thinner oil will never work out for me as we have vehicles in the family for up to 40 years and multiple engines. If I can get another 50K out of an engine, it will pay back all the lost gasoline many times over. I never sell a vehicle with less than 250K and I don't like buying overhauls in the meantime!
 
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Well Pennzoil has good rebates Castrol rebates suck.


Boycott rebates and they will stop. That's the only way to end the madness and get instant relief at the cash register for that oil purchase.


I don't know what you are smoking, but no manufacture is going to discount premier synthetic products $10-$17 at the register. You have to do like 5 minutes of work to get an 'evil' rebate that lowers a synthetic oil to a price point below conventional on sale. Big deal....
 
I try tell BITOG for years . I think 90% here , most are over thinking on small thing , I use to be like OP , loose sleep , find myself in the forum reading on other opinion telling what I'm using is not good enought ...., til one day I say enough is enought, I have moneys , I can buy new one when it broke , that mind set get me off over thinking myself. Stick with name brand and you good , and it work for me ever since . My life a lot better after I'm not active on this forum. I can sleep well , I don't over think myself on small thing . Argue with member here on which thing is better. There are much better thing in life for to look forward to ,rather sit here thinking which oil is better lol. Like I say I have moneys now, I can buy new one whenever it broke . Stick with well known brand name and I'm good , few dollar chump chance ain't made no different to me . $500k when I'm retired is good enought for me. Sitting here thinking which oil is better , this filter cost 2 dollar less then that brand name filter and do better job then that filter .... lol sad at my old self lol. I been really don't care or argue drama debate with other on which which is better , i want them keep glue them self to the computer while I'm out here making moneys lol. I can understand that some peoples want to save some moneys . But think for your self it's worth the extra stress . Loose some hair . Loose some sleep , that bad for your health , heck no it's aint worth it. Keep thing simple -MetalSlug-

Originally Posted by Joe1
I used to pay attention to group lll vs IV oils and go out of my way to find group IV. Nowadays, l find the cheapest oil that meets specs for my car. I don't care if it group III or not.
I've recently switched to supertech 0w20 @5 quarts for 15.98 and don't stay awake at night worrying if l should have purchased something else.
Ten years ago, l would have never considered doing this, but as l get older, my attitude towards certain things have changed over time.
I enjoy ordering online at Walmart and doing in store pickup to avoid the long lines.
 
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From time to time I caught on the bug . I came here for some reading . But I know better not to get back in it . Still good place for some reading from time to time, on rainy day lol
 
I'm changing everything over to Supertech on the next oil change and sticking with it. Put Supertech 10w30 Synthetic in the truck for $15. The Ultra I was putting in the RV was costing at least 45.. why? The engine will outlast body anyways. Same with all our vehicles since we only do maybe 5k year on each if that. Tired of deciding what to use I'll just go with the cheapest.
 
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