Motul 300v High RPM 0w20 double ester, 2000 Camry 2.2L, 5955km

[Ken4]

This is my eighth UOA done on my camry by Dyson Analysis. Oldest on the left, latest on the right. I developed a top end leak with this oil.

Oil
Column 1 (left): Castrol RS 10w50
Column 2: Shell Helix Ultra 15w50
Column 3: Shell Helix Ultra 5w40
Column 4: BP Visco 7000 0w40
Column 5: Castrol SLX 0w30
Column 6: SPC 0w30
Column 7: Fuchs Titan GT1 0w20
Column 8 (right): Motul 300v double ester 0w20

Mileage on car
51898km, 57018km, 62015km, 67229km, 70247km, 72270km,73647km, 79602km

Mileage on oil
4898km, 5120km, 4997km, 5214km, 3018km, 2023km, 1377km, 5955km

Time on oil
2months, 3.5months, 5months, 6months, 4months, 2months, 1.5months, 4.5months

Make-up oil
none, none, none, none, none, none, none, none

IR
Soot (St)
0, 8, 87, 11, 0, 11, 0, 13
Oxidation (Oxi)
22, 34, 0, 27, 83, 15, 150, 1385
Nitration (Nit)
37, 24, 10, 34, 105, 27, 60, 115
Sulfation (Sul)
29, 22, 8, 21, 34, 43, 0, 0

Metal
Iron (Fe)
2, 2, 7, 9, 5, 3, 2, 11
Copper (Cu)
2, 4, 7, 8, 5, 6, 3, 10
Chromium (Cr)
0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1
Aluminum (Al)
1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 5
Lead (Pb)
0, 1, 0, 3, 0, 7, 3, 1
Tin (Sn)
0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 3
Silicon (Si)
3, 4, 8, 10, 9, 9, 2, 17
Sodium (Na)
0, 2, 6, 2, 2, 0, 1, 8
Potassium (K)
0, 0, 2, 4, 0, 2, 3, 1
Molybdenum (Mo)
0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 24, 2, 760
Phosphorus (P)
619, 654, 684, 778, 771, 982, 462, 971
Zinc (Zn)
742, 844, 810, 874, 852, 1279, 101, 1100
Calcium (Ca)
2110, 1250, 1040, 2446, 3072, 2960, 3390, 1750
Magnesium (Mg)
189, 766, 843, 270, 160, 33, 12, 1104

Physical
Water (W)
N, N, N, N, N, N, N, N
Fuel (F)
N, N, N, N, N, N, N, N
Antifreeze (A)
N, N, N, N, N, N, N, N
Total Base Number (Tbn)
8, 6, 8, 7, 8.5, 8.5, 10, 7
Viscosity At 100 C (V100)
18.4, 15.7, 13.8, 13.6, 12.0, 11.0, 8.3, 9.5

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

Ken, looks like 20wt isn't a good oil for this engine. Almost all wear numbers are up from your seven other analysis'. Silicon is up as well. Perhaps it's artificially inflating the wear numbers.

 

[pscholte]

"The Castrols" look pretty good to me.

 

[buster]

Looking at it real fast it seems like a wash. Iron/copper is higher with the Motu but so is Si.

 

[Pablo]

MO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mg

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hard to compare by the different mileages, and without getting calc out...it sorta, maybe looks like your car prefers the slightly thicker oils....but lots of variables changing. That Si is maybe an additive.

 

[JohnBrowning]

Looks like a 40wt is what this engine likes.

 

[Terry]

WOW that oil is like a girl I once adored; Snuggle Barbie we'll call her.

Very compact and thin but extremely well "additized".

 

[noob]

Remember to look at the mileages of each oil sample since they're not even.

 

[SSDude]

The Castrol RS looks excellent!

 

[Bobert]

Looks like both 50wt. oils have the least wear. I suppose if your looking for extra mpg at the sacrifice for a little extra wear, maybe a 30wt. would be a good choice for the Camry. Toyota's seem to like M1, so M1 5w-30 might be a good oil to try.

I'd stay away from the 20wt. oils as wear seems to be elevated from your previous runs.

 

[Toyota18]

If you used 300v 5w-30 0r 5w-40 you might have a good UOA. But this UOA no too bad.2000 C/K truck GM service manual say you need thicker oil in summer time.(Recommended viscosity was 10w-30 no other viscosities are recommended in the service manual.)PS: This was in the service manual not the owners manual.

[ December 21, 2004, 03:36 AM: Message edited by: Toyota18 ]

 

[Idrinkmotoroil]

gotta like the Castrol 10w-50 in this engine, clearly working well in terms of wear protection. I think a good middle of the road oil would be the Castrol 0w-30 SLX, if you are concerned with fuel economy. But definitely the Castrol 10w-50 for engine protection, and no top end leaks.

 

[Cool_jazz]

Hi Ken4, so what are you using now?

 

[Ken4]

Presently using RP5w20. I am a little apprehensive of using Motul 300v again cos of the oil leak, even though my oil leak has now stopped since tightening my valve cover. Im pretty much hooked on 20wts, I have 3 choices here:

RP5w20 = S$40
Fuchs 0w20 = S$76
Motul 0w20 = S126

 

[Cool_jazz]

quote:

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Originally posted by Ken4:
Presently using RP5w20. I am a little apprehensive of using Motul 300v again cos of the oil leak, even though my oil leak has now stopped since tightening my valve cover. Im pretty much hooked on 20wts, I have 3 choices here:

RP5w20 = S$40
Fuchs 0w20 = S$76
Motul 0w20 = S126

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Sad to hear that the 300V did not work for you. I was thinking of going from Agip Extra HTS 5w40 to Motul 300V 10w40.

Do you have any reviews on Mobil 1 Supersyn 5w50? My 156 usually consume 0.5L of oil per 5,000km. But with the Mobil 1 Supersyn 5w50, the engine consumed 0.5L in 2,000km!! Wondered if it has sheared so badly that my engine is consuming so much.

I drive hard, redline everyday (7,000 rpm). Recommended is 10w40 for normal driving and 10w60 for spirited driving.

Thanks

 

[Ken4]

That sure is a lot of make up oil. I think the benchmark is 1qt per 1000miles allowable max. So you are still well below the benchmark. But it may not be oil going pass the rings. Check for oil leaks. Also check your PCV valve. Do a compression test.

 

[Cool_jazz]

quote:

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Originally posted by Ken4:
That sure is a lot of make up oil. I think the benchmark is 1qt per 1000miles allowable max. So you are still well below the benchmark. But it may not be oil going pass the rings. Check for oil leaks. Also check your PCV valve. Do a compression test.

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Thanks. I have just top up with Agip 5w40 (yes, mixing the oil) and will monitor before I send it for a PCV value check + compression test.

Cheers

 

[Leo]

Wow. I didnt realise that the new 300V Double Ester range use Moly!! Their old formulations conatined none of it...

Anyways I dont think 300V is suited in this engine. Its a race oil after all..

 

[Toyota18]

whats wrong with the high amount of moly in the oil?

 

[yannis]

I have tried two of motul's oils ,the old 300V 10W40 and the group 3 6100 10W40 and i am not satisfied with them.
The 300V was sluggish and the 6100 caused a PCV return hose oil leak which was cured with fuchs 5W30.
I don't intent to use any of their products in the future.
Bye bye motul..