AutoMechanic
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What a disappointment.
Motorcraft 820s cut open
- Thread starter Barkleymut
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Zee09
$200 Site Donor 2023
When it gets warmer I have another OEM one to take off and I will cut it
Jackson_Slugger
$50 Site Donor 2022
I'm not sure which newer Ford/Lincolns would take it at this point. But it is a sorry excuse for a filter in the MC line. Not sure who said the tears might destroy your engine but it is shoddy workmanship and fairly inexcusable at this point. The shame is that many other MC filters are very good, but will never use this one again.
Is it really that much of a cost killer to throw in a couple more pleats on the wide side FFS?..
Sorry but Stevie Wonder could tell the Motorcraft 820s are garbage.
The Motorcraft fl 500s, 400s, 910s etc almost always look fantastic..... And are worthy of running without question. I believe I may well run a Motorcraft fl 400s on my lady's 98 Camry... That filter is darn near perfect every time I have seen one cut open on here.
It's just the fl 820s that are hot garbage.
The main problem is that the filter media tears. However, this wouldn't cause an engine to seize up.
You'll only know about the tearing problem by visiting this forum. Of all the 820S filters being used, less than 1% get cut open and "analyzed".
Ford is not going to spend money "beefing" up the 820S because some people found tears after cutting open their filter.
Plus, this filter is mainly used on older vehicles. Ford doesn't care what happens to 5-10 year old cars.
The FoMoCo FL820S filter is a Wix Filter.
Jackson_Slugger
$50 Site Donor 2022
Source? They were Purolators...
Factory Ford filter cut open
This is off of a 2019 F250 with a 6.2 gas engine. This is the factory equivalent to the Fl820s. The base plate is different in that it has round holes instead of slots. The center tube has holes instead of louvers and the adbv is stamped parker instead of fomoco. The base mounted bypass is...
bobistheoilguy.com
Jackson_Slugger
$50 Site Donor 2022
And? Which post says it's a Wix?
Oh, the one that says it's a FACTORY EQUIVALENT? lame...
Jackson_Slugger
$50 Site Donor 2022
That's cute, noob. Try reading harder...
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Jackson_Slugger
$50 Site Donor 2022
When I changed oil in a quick lube way back when, the OEM factory FMC filters were straight battleship gray...
Zee09
$200 Site Donor 2023
I guess Ford doesn't sell many new F250 -350 gas trucks???
Even the new 7.3 takes this turd.
So they are not just for older vehicles. That makes no sense.
The 820 reeks of quality on the outside. If they can get that right they can fix the inside.
A poorly made filter can't damage an engine huh...so what was all of the OCOD. Nonsense about???
Every Fram hater whips that out
frequently.
Even the new 7.3 takes this turd.
So they are not just for older vehicles. That makes no sense.
The 820 reeks of quality on the outside. If they can get that right they can fix the inside.
A poorly made filter can't damage an engine huh...so what was all of the OCOD. Nonsense about???
Every Fram hater whips that out
frequently.
I've used the fl820s filter the vast amount of time between my 1997 F150 (297k) and my 2008 dd (216k) without issue. Granted I've only cut 8-10 of them open, but with over 500k miles, I think they're doing the job just fine.
And considering how many are found torn that doesn't bode well for the remaining 99%.
Just the act of cutting them open could result in them tearing, especially when some people were using a hack saw or cut off wheel. Thought we covered this many times before.
That sounds more like a convenient excuse by those who don't want to face facts rather than a plausible explanation for as many as we see.
Even if half are as you say that still leaves quite a few that aren't due to user error. I guess that from the pictures I've seen I don't see the type of tearing that would be the result of a hacksaw blade or cutoff wheel. What we see are in the inside pleats or directly at the glue line, not abrasion down at the base that's across the pleat fold.
Plus if it were widespread user error then we'd see nearly every manufacturer and/or model with tears which isn't the case. There are many filters cut open here that do not have tears, are the incompetent people confined to only those that use this filter?
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Both are Mann & Hummel
So why is it automatically assumed this is a terrible issue? Are the engines in vehicles that use that filter blowing up? Or wearing out prematurely? Maybe ask the taxi and limo fleet owners who use the filter on cars that routinely see 300,000 and 400,000 miles. If after all those miles the engines are still running using that filter, I'd say it's a fine filter to use.
Yeah. Like I said about excuses.
You don't need an oil filter cutter, just some tin snips (I used aviation snips because the cutting head is a little slimmer). It will take a few minutes to cut all the way around.
