I was just at O'Reilleys and they had the Mobil Super Synthetic on sale for $3.49/qt, They had 0w-20 and I read the package and noticed it states it only meets requirements for Honda and Toyota whereas the M1 0w-20 meets Ford and Chrysler requirements as well. Why would the super synthetic not work in a Ford application. I run M1 0w-20 on my Mazda 6 and would love to run the super syn instead to save $$ every oil change.
Mobil Super Syn question
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I just picked up a few quarts of the 0w20 Super Synthetic at the O'Reillys here in Orlando. It states on the bottle that it is "acceptable" for Honda and Toyota requirements where a 0w20 is called required.
I guess they got a "blessing" from Honda and Toyota on this Super Synthetic.
I plan on adding this Mobil Super Synthetic 0w20 to the Mobil Delvac Super 1300, Diesel Dino 15w40 that I have left from the Walmart sale of Delvac last month. Looks like a nice cheap synthetic for a good price.
I guess they got a "blessing" from Honda and Toyota on this Super Synthetic.
I plan on adding this Mobil Super Synthetic 0w20 to the Mobil Delvac Super 1300, Diesel Dino 15w40 that I have left from the Walmart sale of Delvac last month. Looks like a nice cheap synthetic for a good price.
Even Mobile's website says that the 5W20 Super Syn is "suitable" for Ford applications, not that it "meets or exceeds" the Ford specs.
With hedging like that from MO, I'll stick with Motorcraft products.
With hedging like that from MO, I'll stick with Motorcraft products.
what the heck does "acceptable" mean? Does not give me great confidence. I am sure it is a great oil but QSUD is the same price and been around, proven itself and has the spec's to back it up.
"acceptable" mean?
It means recommended in new corporate lawyer style wording!
It means recommended in new corporate lawyer style wording!
Originally Posted By: mongo161
I just picked up a few quarts of the 0w20 Super Synthetic at the O'Reillys here in Orlando. It states on the bottle that it is "acceptable" for Honda and Toyota requirements where a 0w20 is called required.
I guess they got a "blessing" from Honda and Toyota on this Super Synthetic.
It doesn't mean they got a blessing at all. It doesn't say certified by Honda or Toyota. Oils and transfluid say they "meet or exceed" or "acceptable for us in ..." It's a claim by the oil company, not the car manufacturer. It's a way to say the oil company believes it works in those products, but the manufacturer has not tested or approved it. "acceptable" seems less convincing than "meets or exceeds." hum... maybe it's "their requirements are stupid. This works fine."
I just picked up a few quarts of the 0w20 Super Synthetic at the O'Reillys here in Orlando. It states on the bottle that it is "acceptable" for Honda and Toyota requirements where a 0w20 is called required.
I guess they got a "blessing" from Honda and Toyota on this Super Synthetic.
It doesn't mean they got a blessing at all. It doesn't say certified by Honda or Toyota. Oils and transfluid say they "meet or exceed" or "acceptable for us in ..." It's a claim by the oil company, not the car manufacturer. It's a way to say the oil company believes it works in those products, but the manufacturer has not tested or approved it. "acceptable" seems less convincing than "meets or exceeds." hum... maybe it's "their requirements are stupid. This works fine."
Just seems odd to me for a company to come out w a new syn that is not as good as the first...i know the price point thing, but too confusing on the specs ..should have just lowered price of m1 a couple bucks....could have competed well w qsud even priced a couple dollars more.. 5-6bucks more however give me qsud
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"acceptable" mean?
It means recommended in new corporate lawyer style wording!
+1. Corporate lawyer speak. Though likely acceptable for most
Its academic to me as XOM is the only big player in the market that uses one line of product in the US, and a completely different one in Canada. Finding meaningful info on their product line here was a task I undertook last year, but gave up when it went nowhere beyond mostly meaningless marketing stuff, and very little hard data of the type I can easily find on SOPUS products, or Castrol, Valvoline, etc.
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"acceptable" mean?
It means recommended in new corporate lawyer style wording!
+1. Corporate lawyer speak. Though likely acceptable for most
Its academic to me as XOM is the only big player in the market that uses one line of product in the US, and a completely different one in Canada. Finding meaningful info on their product line here was a task I undertook last year, but gave up when it went nowhere beyond mostly meaningless marketing stuff, and very little hard data of the type I can easily find on SOPUS products, or Castrol, Valvoline, etc.
-Spyder
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Instead of "Acceptable" for use in Honda and Toyota, the correct wording is as follows...."Suitable for use in Honda and Toyota"
On the back of the quart of 0w20 Mobil Super Synthetic it states the following.... Meets or exceeds the requirements of ILSAC GF-5, API SN, SM, SL.
"Suitable for use in Honda and Toyota vehicles where a 0w20 viscosity is required". It is also Resource Conserving synthetic oil.
On the back of the quart of 0w20 Mobil Super Synthetic it states the following.... Meets or exceeds the requirements of ILSAC GF-5, API SN, SM, SL.
"Suitable for use in Honda and Toyota vehicles where a 0w20 viscosity is required". It is also Resource Conserving synthetic oil.
If the Mobil super syn was $3.49 a qt, that's really cheap. I saw it at Meijer's and it was $5.19 a qt. Didn't make any sense to buy any since you can get a 5 qt jug of M1 at Wal-mart for $24.50. Wonder how soon they will start carrying the 5 qt jugs of the super syn and what will be the price? I see that Supertech full syn is now $4.19 a qt or $18.52 a 5 qt jug. Maybe the Mobil super syn will come in around that. If it's higher, just pay the extra few bucks and get M1 since Mobil claims it is a better synthetic anyway.
If your vehicle calls for a 5W-20 (which is what I read on the MAZDA 6 Forum site) then any 5W-20 should work just fine.
You don't NEED a 0W-xx so it would seem to me that Mobil Super Synthetic in 5W-20 would be a great choice at $3.49 per quart.
Don't really know what Ford/Mazda engine REQUIRE a 0W-20, but if your '06 doesn't...
Why worry?
Cheers!
p.s. Be HAPPY!
You don't NEED a 0W-xx so it would seem to me that Mobil Super Synthetic in 5W-20 would be a great choice at $3.49 per quart.
Don't really know what Ford/Mazda engine REQUIRE a 0W-20, but if your '06 doesn't...
Why worry?
Cheers!
p.s. Be HAPPY!
Did anyone notice if the new Super Syn is 4718M (Corvette spec)?
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