Mobil one noise want better options.

[demarpaint]

I never had noise problems with Mobil 1, but honestly if I did I'd probably swap it out at the next change interval for something that keeps the engine running quieter. I had noise with one of the Boutique oils, [no point in mentioning names, it's old news]. I replaced it with Mobil 1 and had a quieter running engine. "To me" a quiet running machine is better than an noisy running machine.

 

[jayg]

Originally Posted By: bigjl


Not sure what difference engine size and manufacturer have to do with it.



Really?

You misunderstood why I referenced a solid lifter HEMI and I assume it's because you aren't as familiar with the Dodge Dart namesake. Now, about 50 years ago, you could get a Dodge Dart with a high strung 426 Hemi V8 that would require special oil considerations for its use. These days, you could but whatever meets the spec with little consideration because ALL the motors available for the Dart nowadays are very tame, turbo added for efficiency or not.


It has nothing to do with size or manufacturer but TECHNOLOGY. I kept my analogy in the Mopar family to make it more relatable to most Americans who recall the moniker on here and still equate it to a fire breathing monster.

 

[aquariuscsm]

To me,a smooth and quiet engine is a happy engine. If moving parts are noisy,I just feel that something isn't right.

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Dart Rallye Pak and you went AFE... I'd be looking for the most robust spec oil I could find. Look at op temp viscosity numbers. The higher the better

Uh, it's got 160hp... Rally E just means it has stiffer suspension, different wheels, and a different grille. That's it.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
To me,a smooth and quiet engine is a happy engine. If moving parts are noisy,I just feel that something isn't right.


I feel the same way.

 

[Jetronic]

Well, if all oils that are to spec protect in an indescernible manner, and fuel consumption differences aren't quantifiable by individual users, shouldn't we all seek out the oil that results in the best NVH characteristics? If you don't hear or feel a difference, the cheapest oil would be best.

 

[turnbowm]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I never had noise problems with Mobil 1, but honestly if I did I'd probably swap it out at the next change interval for something that keeps the engine running quieter. I had noise with one of the Boutique oils, [no point in mentioning names, it's old news]. I replaced it with Mobil 1 and had a quieter running engine. "To me" a quiet running machine is better than an noisy running machine.


I feel the same way. Quiet wins over noisy any day!

 

[UltrafanUK]

Going past the OLM indication is not a good idea in warranty terms, BUT once you are out of warranty it might be worth considering IF you monitor actual real world results with a few UOA's.

If your engine does start to click or rattle after several thousand miles from the start of an OCI, it's a real good idea to find out why. Most likely reason is fuel contamination of the oil, BUT it could also be that the viscosity of the oil was too low in comparison with how worn the main block is, assuming you are using the correct oil in the first place and the block has not sludged out etc.
Some high revving or race engines with hot running turbos will also shear their oil down, but that is not very common and tends to happen more with an engine that is overheating or is not run on conventional base oils.

 

[bbhero]

Add me to yalls group. No noise is a good thing. This doofus WORLD CHAMPION typing this used to not pay attention to my cars in my teens and early twenties. One time my step father was like, " your car is rather loud". Well it was down about 2 quarts of oil in that 89 Ford Probe. It had only a 4.5 qt capacity. He added the two quarts. Once I started paying attention to my car I finally realized what I had been missing for years. After I was 24 yrs old I paid much greater attention to my car's sounds, belts, how it was running and tires etc.. It helped me get great service from a 95 Nissan Sentra with hardly any real problems.

 

[KCJeep]

A couple things to know...

This is BITOG so thou shalt not say anything negative about M1.

And because some tone deaf individuals can't hear anything in their engines, what it actually means is none of us can and you don't know what you are talking about.

In fun...

 

[4WD]

Yeah like MaxLife and Rotella in everything that rotates ? Fact is - this is one big popularity contest with some good technical advice mixed in. Maybe folks need to buy DB meters to add some numbers

 

[jayg]

Originally Posted By: 4WD
Yeah like MaxLife and Rotella in everything that rotates ? Fact is - this is one big popularity contest with some good technical advice mixed in. Maybe folks need to buy DB meters to add some numbers

This site is about 50/50 informative/paranoid ignorance.

I don't even use Mobil 1 because I have no particular use for it in my current fleet but these folks with new economy cars dumping new Mobil 1 because of a perceived noise to run another oil...that makes no sense.


Mobil 1 can withstand high revving GT Corvette race cars at LeMans but can't take your [censored] to work in an economy car without causing catastrophic engine wear and noise?

LOL

 

[53' Stude]

It's also hilarious that M1 0w40 is like the "unicorn" oil here

 

[53' Stude]

JayG: its marketing that folks buy into, nothing more

 

[jayg]

Originally Posted By: car51
JayG: its marketing that folks buy into, nothing more


M1 is a fine synthetic oil. No better or worse than a lot of them out there. It just blows my mind that people think it doesn't work as a lubricant in their economy cars yet it works just fine in race cars on the biggest circuits in the world.

 

[53' Stude]

Very true

 

[fdcg27]

You miss the point.
40C isn't an unusual starting temperature around here on a hot July or August dog day afternoon and is pretty common in the warmer parts of the country.
0C would be a warmish starting temperature here for a few months each year.
An oil that exhibits lower viscosity than any comparator at low temperatures is desirable since it has reduced pumping resistance at lower temperatures and lower friction losses through the bearings as well.
IOW, this is a good thing and would not be a cause of noise. The oil doesn't remain at its starting temperature for very long. It warms quickly with engine run even in very cold weather.
If it provides adequate viscosity at higher temperatures, then all is well.
M1 AFE also blows most other oils away at really cold starting temperatures.
Check out the CCV and MRV numbers for this oil in either of the grades. It's clear that AFE is a really good oil.

 

[jayg]

Originally Posted By: fdcg27
You miss the point.
40C isn't an unusual starting temperature around here on a hot July or August dog day afternoon and is pretty common in the warmer parts of the country.
0C would be a warmish starting temperature here for a few months each year.
An oil that exhibits lower viscosity than any comparator at low temperatures is desirable since it has reduced pumping resistance at lower temperatures and lower friction losses through the bearings as well.
IOW, this is a good thing and would not be a cause of noise. The oil doesn't remain at its starting temperature for very long. It warms quickly with engine run even in very cold weather.
If it provides adequate viscosity at higher temperatures, then all is well.
M1 AFE also blows most other oils away at really cold starting temperatures.
Check out the CCV and MRV numbers for this oil in either of the grades. It's clear that AFE is a really good oil.


Who are you talking to specifically?

 

[fdcg27]

I was replying to what I thought was a silly post from a newbie, not a guy running old oil in an old Z who also has (had?) an old Ferrari in his garage.
I was writing for everyone in the thread.

 

[4WD]

I manage a technical team and find myself calling them blue parrots, green parrots, etc - trying to get them to have an original thought or two, and stop passing on subjective info.