Mobil 1 - Why do some bad mouth it?

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I lol'd at this from the link provided.
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But what I am trying to find out is if there is a link between the oil used and bearing failure. I used to use mobil oil myself, until my last teardown when I noticed 100K worth of wear in only 7K miles.



This guy at least knows the truth:
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Originally Posted by Dudeman258 View Post
There is a problem here because most users here use Mobil One. Therefore the likely hood of getting rod knock will be grater then most other brands regardless of the cause.
 
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These guys don't know what they are talking about!

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The problem with current formulation of M1 10W-30 is it is a thin 30W to start with, and under extreme conditions (heat, etc.) seems to be prone to TBN breakdown - that's in short when your oil runs like water out of the motor.
 
Originally Posted By: Anies
I lol'd at this from the link provided.
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But what I am trying to find out is if there is a link between the oil used and bearing failure. I used to use mobil oil myself, until my last teardown when I noticed 100K worth of wear in only 7K miles.


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Something is amiss here. Now even the Nissan people dont like it.

This guy at least knows the truth:
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Originally Posted by Dudeman258 View Post
There is a problem here because most users here use Mobil One. Therefore the likely hood of getting rod knock will be grater then most other brands regardless of the cause.


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Something is amiss here. Now even the Nissan people dont like it.

I think it lasted a little more than a week this time, without an M1 challenge thread. That at least deserves a
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View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?
 
The interesting thing about it is that.

A greater number of people are using Mobil 1. That means if a failure occured, a great number of people were using Mobil 1 when it happened. It may not be due to Mobil 1, but thats how they are looking at it.

Fewer people are using off brands and still experienced rod knock/spun bearings.

Hmm one might figure that oil may not have much to do with this.


If you keep reading the thread, it boils down to a bunch of mis-informed individuals throwing misinformation around. Granted it's opinion, and everyone is entitled to it. People are talking about 5w30, in boosted cars with mods etc. It's going to shear regardless of brand.
 
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View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Alabama?
 
Originally Posted By: Johnny
View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Johnny, Besides my long
use of M1 oil I may know of at least 25-30 engines currently that have run on M1 oil for the life of the engine, not to mention all of the engines that go back several years and not one has ever had a failure. Some of these engines have very high mileage on them as well. Even though this poll seems to have been taken by an Amsoil dealer(truth will be certain there HaHa) I believe their products to be outstanding.
 
Originally Posted By: Anies
Originally Posted By: Johnny
View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Alabama?


Yeah, you just scoop it up off the beach. Or is the Beach Petroleum that you scoop off the beach?
 
Originally Posted By: Anies
Originally Posted By: Johnny
View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Alabama?


I had this in mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home


Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Johnny
View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Johnny, Besides my long
use of M1 oil I may know of at least 25-30 engines currently that have run on M1 oil for the life of the engine, not to mention all of the engines that go back several years and not one has ever had a failure. Some of these engines have very high mileage on them as well. Even though this poll seems to have been taken by an Amsoil dealer(truth will be certain there HaHa) I believe their products to be outstanding.


I agree with you 100%. I think Mobil 1 (all viscosities) is a great product and would have no problems using any of them. As a matter of fact, I have used some of them.
 
Well if you use a scooper, its got an Edge. So that must be where BP gets the oil to make Castrol Edge!

I'm sure those fine bits of sand help reduce wear. We can call them anti-friction granules!
 
Originally Posted By: Johnny
View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Yeah,it`s a place called....over Yonder.
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
Originally Posted By: Anies
Originally Posted By: Johnny
View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Alabama?


I had this in mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home


Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Johnny
View Poll Results: What brand oil when bearing failed?
Mobile 1


I've never heard of or seen this "Mobile" product before. Does anyone know where to get it?


Johnny, Besides my long
use of M1 oil I may know of at least 25-30 engines currently that have run on M1 oil for the life of the engine, not to mention all of the engines that go back several years and not one has ever had a failure. Some of these engines have very high mileage on them as well. Even though this poll seems to have been taken by an Amsoil dealer(truth will be certain there HaHa) I believe their products to be outstanding.


I agree with you 100%. I think Mobil 1 (all viscosities) is a great product and would have no problems using any of them. As a matter of fact, I have used some of them.



I recall Johnny adorned with the Mobil 1 stallion logo for a short period.
 
Originally Posted By: Anies
People are talking about 5w30, in boosted cars with mods etc. It's going to shear regardless of brand.


That`s the only part I feel is pertinent. I`m no lubrication or mechanical engineer,but I still never understand why people use thin oil in performance cars,especially ones that are getting raced.
 
Originally Posted By: Captain_Klink
basically, they had a superior oil, back when. then they watered down their formula to barely adequate, in order to increase profits. look up "corporation" under google, and you will find that the NUMBER ONE priority of the corporation, is to increase profits. they have absolutely NO priority of producing a quality product. so the way the game goes, is to #1 operate at a loss, and jack up quality, until you get a lot of endorsements. some of the endorsements are basically obtained with money under the table (bribes). then, gradually cut back on quality, until the product is producing huge profits for the CEO and shareholders. Basically, ANY oil nowadays, even BOZO the Clown brand no name oil at your grocery store, as long as it says SL or SM, will protect your engine. They KNOW this, but their reason for living is profit, so that is basically how the game works. That is the reason, that I buy based on price, such as Quaker State, or Valvoline, or ST, or PZ. ALL of these, are superior to Mobil, but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF KNOWING IT, except by insight into how the game works, which you will find out by using google search, if you are so inclined.

...and what "EVEDENCE' do you have for these claims?

Do you have some insider info that us outsiders are not privy to?
 
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Originally Posted By: Anies
I don't even go into that anymore Gary. Money's worth is different for everyone and even Bill knows what I'm talking about when I say it falls on deaf ears/like talking to a wall lol.



Sure. It's a comparative thing. If you're not going to do 6 month OCI's without a synthetic, then you can be getting your money's worth ..even if you're being wasteful.

It's just like SM vs. SL add levels. No one has any idea how much phos you're processing through the engine on a per mile basis. They only figure that you're processing less on SM than you were on SL.
 
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Originally Posted By: Anies
People are talking about 5w30, in boosted cars with mods etc. It's going to shear regardless of brand.


That`s the only part I feel is pertinent. I`m no lubrication or mechanical engineer,but I still never understand why people use thin oil in performance cars,especially ones that are getting raced.


They remember all they have learned about how "Thin Oil Lubricates better," And since they are usually Honda Civics to start with, anything but GC is gonna get Eaten Up by the engines.
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Seems the larger the engine, the thicker to go, M1 or not?
 
They should have used a 40/50 for their application. And most times when your building up a car yourself you tend to squeeze a bit more out of your buck. Increase boost a little more here, add more mods and then your running a motor that factory specced a certain weight of oil and your no longer stock!
 
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