Mobil 1 Supersyn means no ester ??!!

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Originally Posted By: vxcalais
http://www.aussieelises.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t4771.html

I am loving the info on this thread. Would like it verified and if it came from this site. Also loved the BITOM (bob is the oil man) referecence (innocent). Looks like great info. Can we link to another forum ?


The quote from that site:
Thanks to Ian who pointed out the site called Bitom (bobistheoilman-which is a totally freaky site to do with freaky nerds who like to look into the composition of oil for a hobby ) really interesting information has come up on the new Supersyn compostion that now makes up Mobil 1

That craked me up!!!!!!!!
 
When I want to determine the ester content of an oil I simply compare the 100C vis to the HTHS vis.
A relatively low HTHS vis for a given grade of oil like 3.0 cP for a 10.5 cSt 30 wt tells me this oil contains little or no ester.
3.8 cP for the same 10.5 cSt 100C vis tells me this oil contains a boat load of ester!
 
hmm, so are Mobil's criticisms of esters valid ? I found this thread interesting because i assumed all PAO's needed ester to blend the additives, give it seal swell etc. I never new they did without it. What i do find interesting is they don't want to tell anyone their base stock, but now everyone knows about their supersyn, non ester use etc. Also when ever i read about people guessing the make up of MObil 1, ester has been mentioned, but i find it an amazing feat of Mobil's behalf to come up with this technology. Then again as said earlier being the largest PAO producer, its natural to make it out to be better than GRoup 5's.

Great feedback guys !
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Originally Posted By: mcrn
That was hard to read. I know a lot of people on here will say its ok to misspell every word and that nobody should say anything. But when its so hard to read that is slows you down because you are trying to figure out the much appreciated information, it is a distraction. I just wanted to point out in a nice way that there are free spell checks and I think it makes people that have a lot of information to share seem more credible. I hope this is not offensive to anyone. I really am not trying to come across like that. I really want to just improve things if I can. After all I do not have the oil information that some here do!


pull your head in mate.
 
Originally Posted By: erogers
I agree. It is not an unfair presumption that there should be at least some semblance of proper grammar and spelling in a person's writing when using an online forum. Punctuation marks were created for a reason. Otherwise, how can anyone effectively communicate in this medium? Now, let's get back to discussing oil without the usual "Excuse me, Professor" defensive replies from the grammatically challenged.


pull yours in too.

John Browning has forgotten more than what you've ever known.
 
Originally Posted By: vxcalais
Gone quiet ? There were a few predictions that this one would go on. I got most of my answers, now keep playing hehe
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Problem is different markets probably get different blends.
 
I often misspell and miss punctuation when typing straight onto “quick reply.” And can understand the frustration after you have responded and it cannot be edited.

This is a short coming of the data base/program used to run the BITOG forum it doesn’t allow a member to go back and edit a response after a short time limit. Removal of the time barrier would help to alleviate the concerns raised.

In respect to time taken to digest information misspelt, what’s your hurry ? If the response is so confusing just politely ask for the response to be resubmitted or clarified.

I cured some of the problem by typing up the response in a “Word” document so that “word” can perform a spell and grammar check.
 
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Those fastideous about grammar and spelling are most likely over-compensating for lack of knowledge
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I didnt spell everything correctly, did I?
 
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To be fair, I do think poor spelling and grammar can make an argument very hard to read and understand. I just disagree with some of the people in this thread about when to just buck up and slug through it.

In JohnBrowning's case, I choose to spend a tiny bit more effort reading what he says because he is obviously knowledgeable and makes very valuable contributions. But hey, that's a value judgment and entirely personal.
 
I agree - it's like the Southern states accent sounding like a hillbilly stupe to a Northerner, regardless or education or significant personal acomplishment. I dont like to focus to much on appearances - I mean, look at how car salesman dress ... and what's goin on in THERE?!
 
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