Mobil 1 Racing Technical Development - 0w50
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Bob - Aston Martin does too even in 24hr events - does it make you feel good?
Bob - Aston Martin does too even in 24hr events - does it make you feel good?
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Bob - I can confirm that Mobil 1 0W-40 held up very well indeed. Aston Martin uses this lubricant in all of their Nurburgring (and othe locastions) testing. They have a very modern and well staffed development centre at Nurburg - right alongside the Nordschleife as it passes through Nurburg
Bob - I can confirm that Mobil 1 0W-40 held up very well indeed. Aston Martin uses this lubricant in all of their Nurburgring (and othe locastions) testing. They have a very modern and well staffed development centre at Nurburg - right alongside the Nordschleife as it passes through Nurburg
Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
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Bob - I can confirm that Mobil 1 0W-40 held up very well indeed. Aston Martin uses this lubricant in all of their Nurburgring (and othe locastions) testing. They have a very modern and well staffed development centre at Nurburg - right alongside the Nordschleife as it passes through Nurburg
Hi,
Bob - I can confirm that Mobil 1 0W-40 held up very well indeed. Aston Martin uses this lubricant in all of their Nurburgring (and othe locastions) testing. They have a very modern and well staffed development centre at Nurburg - right alongside the Nordschleife as it passes through Nurburg
Out of all the Mobil 1 products, the 0W-40 is the only one that stands out with the rest of the killer oils (GC 0W-30, Rotella T Synthetic 5w40). Except Mobil 1 0W-40 and GC 0w30 are the two killer oils that can be put in an engine and are meant to take a beating and like it.
This Mobil 1 0w50 doesn't sound like a street application like GC and Mobil 1 0W-40. It sounds like it has the additives for protection, but probably a short lasting TBN since it says it isn't recommended for street applications. A VOA will be nice.
This Mobil 1 0w50 doesn't sound like a street application like GC and Mobil 1 0W-40. It sounds like it has the additives for protection, but probably a short lasting TBN since it says it isn't recommended for street applications. A VOA will be nice.
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
Bob - Aston Martin does too even in 24hr events - does it make you feel good?
Yes and no. I wonder how well the oil held up for those 24 hours?
As cool as it is to say you have race-car oil, I don't think it's a fair comparison. All those guys care about is that the oil lasts the duration of the race. The motor will get torn down afterwards. They care more about high-temp performance than us (extremely high temp since the motor spends 95% of its time near redline).
Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it.
Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
Bob - Aston Martin does too even in 24hr events - does it make you feel good?
Yes and no. I wonder how well the oil held up for those 24 hours?
As cool as it is to say you have race-car oil, I don't think it's a fair comparison. All those guys care about is that the oil lasts the duration of the race. The motor will get torn down afterwards. They care more about high-temp performance than us (extremely high temp since the motor spends 95% of its time near redline).
Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it.
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Dan - You said this:
"Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it."
Millions of engines use a 0W-40 viscosity lubricant - they have been on the market with great success since the late 1990s
The most popular M1 lubricant here (and in many other Countries) is 5W-50 (it is the only Porsche Approved SAE50 lubricant)- I suspect they will be offering a 0w50 version for road use in the near future
Dan - You said this:
"Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it."
Millions of engines use a 0W-40 viscosity lubricant - they have been on the market with great success since the late 1990s
The most popular M1 lubricant here (and in many other Countries) is 5W-50 (it is the only Porsche Approved SAE50 lubricant)- I suspect they will be offering a 0w50 version for road use in the near future
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
Bob - Aston Martin does too even in 24hr events - does it make you feel good?
Yes and no. I wonder how well the oil held up for those 24 hours?
As cool as it is to say you have race-car oil, I don't think it's a fair comparison. All those guys care about is that the oil lasts the duration of the race. The motor will get torn down afterwards. They care more about high-temp performance than us (extremely high temp since the motor spends 95% of its time near redline).
Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it.
Street cars on the track, or street cars on the road?
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
Bob - Aston Martin does too even in 24hr events - does it make you feel good?
Yes and no. I wonder how well the oil held up for those 24 hours?
As cool as it is to say you have race-car oil, I don't think it's a fair comparison. All those guys care about is that the oil lasts the duration of the race. The motor will get torn down afterwards. They care more about high-temp performance than us (extremely high temp since the motor spends 95% of its time near redline).
Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it.
Street cars on the track, or street cars on the road?
Originally Posted By: dparm
Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it.
As Doug said, there is a Porsche approved 5w-50 (Castrol Syntec), and it happens to be available at auto parts stores, so presumably at least some Porsches are using it.
Some very high performance Mustang variants spec a 5w-50 IIRC, as do the Ford GT and McLaren Mercedes SLR (Mobil 1 in those cases).
Mobil 1 0w-40 must be one of the most widely used lubricants ever. ALL Mercedeses and Porsches (except the diesels and the SLR) use it as factory and service fill. That's a lot of cars! Ditto some Corvettes, the Dodge Viper, and the Nissan GT-R. Many BMW dealerships and shops use it for service fill since it is approved for almost all BMWs, as do many Saabs for a similar reason.
And if you think those grades are thick, most of BMW's M cars use a 10w-60...
There are plenty of cars out there that spec thick oil.
Again...what street cars are going to run 0w50? I think 0w40 is even pushing it.
As Doug said, there is a Porsche approved 5w-50 (Castrol Syntec), and it happens to be available at auto parts stores, so presumably at least some Porsches are using it.
Some very high performance Mustang variants spec a 5w-50 IIRC, as do the Ford GT and McLaren Mercedes SLR (Mobil 1 in those cases).
Mobil 1 0w-40 must be one of the most widely used lubricants ever. ALL Mercedeses and Porsches (except the diesels and the SLR) use it as factory and service fill. That's a lot of cars! Ditto some Corvettes, the Dodge Viper, and the Nissan GT-R. Many BMW dealerships and shops use it for service fill since it is approved for almost all BMWs, as do many Saabs for a similar reason.
And if you think those grades are thick, most of BMW's M cars use a 10w-60...
There are plenty of cars out there that spec thick oil.
Originally Posted By: buster
There must be a reason why Mobil is making 0w based racing oils and why race teams are using them! lol
I think Doug addressed the question.
Even in race engines, you frequently have to deal with cold ambient conditions and with the engines shut down for an extended period of time between practice and the actual race. That whole time the engine oil is losing heat. When the race finally starts, the oil temp's will be far below optimal and the oil much thicker than optimal; hence the advantage of 0W-XX (High VI) oils.
There must be a reason why Mobil is making 0w based racing oils and why race teams are using them! lol
I think Doug addressed the question.
Even in race engines, you frequently have to deal with cold ambient conditions and with the engines shut down for an extended period of time between practice and the actual race. That whole time the engine oil is losing heat. When the race finally starts, the oil temp's will be far below optimal and the oil much thicker than optimal; hence the advantage of 0W-XX (High VI) oils.
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