The engine test portion yes. It does not meet the requirements for the bench test. But I think most people would consider that a feature not a bug, especially considering the target market as you note.
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I've been using the mobil 1 Advanced fuel economy 0w-30 in my 2.7L ford ecoboost turbo and am kind of bummed to find out this oil doesn't seem to be well regarded since it is apparently a group III GTL base mostly. I live in a cold climate (Alaska) and during winter end up doing quite a few cold starts below -20 F/-30 C, and unfortunately the vehicle is parked outdoors without a block heater. Sometimes I go north where it can be even colder in the mornings.
It seems that there is no winning and we have to pick between a 0W-30 (ESP) that doesn't meet Ford's WSS-M2C963-A spec and run the risk of warranty issues (I know this is not likely to be a problem), or pick a "better" 0W-30 like the ESP but doesn't meet the Ford spec, or just run a Ford WSS spec'd 5w-30 and give up the low temperature pumpability of the 0W. I'm hoping maybe to defend against the cold start cam phaser issue of these Fords with a good cold starting oil. I'm also cognizant of the calcium and low speed pre-ignition issue, but I think the 2.7L is big enough in displacement not to be too susceptible, I think the DI + port injection helps? - stayed up way too late reading a 20 page debate about that on here last night. That thread also revealed to me that the manufacturer specs are kind of scammy pay-to-play sort of government corruption situation too, and I can understand the revulsion to anything named "fuel economy" oil due to the CAFE connotations, etc.
To compromise I'm just running the AFE 0w30 and doing 3,000 mile changes for now until I get my VOA and UOA back from blackstone (I know, not highly regarded here, womp womp) which is taking a long time. The oil temp gauge in my Bronco never gets hotter than 190, so hopefully it's not shearing down too thin during summer driving, which still averages ~60F/15C around here. I guess there is an Amalie Elixir 0W-30 that meets ford spec, maybe it is worth a look?
It seems that there is no winning and we have to pick between a 0W-30 (ESP) that doesn't meet Ford's WSS-M2C963-A spec and run the risk of warranty issues (I know this is not likely to be a problem), or pick a "better" 0W-30 like the ESP but doesn't meet the Ford spec, or just run a Ford WSS spec'd 5w-30 and give up the low temperature pumpability of the 0W. I'm hoping maybe to defend against the cold start cam phaser issue of these Fords with a good cold starting oil. I'm also cognizant of the calcium and low speed pre-ignition issue, but I think the 2.7L is big enough in displacement not to be too susceptible, I think the DI + port injection helps? - stayed up way too late reading a 20 page debate about that on here last night. That thread also revealed to me that the manufacturer specs are kind of scammy pay-to-play sort of government corruption situation too, and I can understand the revulsion to anything named "fuel economy" oil due to the CAFE connotations, etc.
To compromise I'm just running the AFE 0w30 and doing 3,000 mile changes for now until I get my VOA and UOA back from blackstone (I know, not highly regarded here, womp womp) which is taking a long time. The oil temp gauge in my Bronco never gets hotter than 190, so hopefully it's not shearing down too thin during summer driving, which still averages ~60F/15C around here. I guess there is an Amalie Elixir 0W-30 that meets ford spec, maybe it is worth a look?
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mobil is not the only player on the block,,in your use you may want to consider Red line 0w-30 ,especially in your climate,plus you maybe be able to go longer oci,,its pricy but a real good engine oil. or even Amsoil 0w-30 is good.
I currently use Royal Purple 5w-30 pcmo in my Chevy trax 2020 turbo,works well,nice and quiet and mpg is up there, along with Fram ultra cartridge filter.
Do you have access to 120v power?
If yes, a stick on oil pan heater would work well in your situation. I used Wolverine brand on my fleet of Ford Transits.
Diversions into government corruption, thoughts of revulsion, and Blackstone "womp womp" are getting in the way of understanding what you're attempting to ask here.
I stated in another thread, never seen a poorly formulated 0W-30. I could be wrong though!!
If it makes you feel better they’re all majority group 3 synthetics. Costs much more than $30 per jug to get majority group 4/5. Nothing wrong with AFE or ESP. If cost is not a concern step up to a boutique.
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Is M1 0W40 FS from WM a viable replacement candidate for the M1 0W 30 ESP ?
It depends on which way you want to go. The SAPS levels are different and I would not use the FS product for an application where a lowered SAPS oil is either required or recommended. I definitely go the other way around, but maybe not everyone does.
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I would caution against thinking that the esp couldn’t meet the spec. It’s not aimed at the American market, so it’s tested against European manufacturers specs. And Meets the most stringent standards from there.
Unfortunately, lubrizoil has not added the ford spec to its tool for comparison yet. But regardless in the us, they cannot deny warranty claims for choice of engine oil under the Magnussen-Moss act
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