Mobil 1 better, same or worse?

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
The maintenance minder feature on my civic starts a fresh oil change at 100% and at 5-6k miles it hits 50% which to me means the oil is working at half of its full efficiency and 100% sounds better than 50% any day.

If the maintenance minder tells me to [do something stupid] doesn't mean I'm gonna go do just that, but oil is something that can't be disregarded


Why anyone at this point is still formulating rational responses is a mystery to me.

 

[camrydriver111]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
The maintenance minder feature on my civic starts a fresh oil change at 100% and at 5-6k miles it hits 50% which to me means the oil is working at half of its full efficiency and 100% sounds better than 50% any day.

If the maintenance minder tells me to [do something stupid] doesn't mean I'm gonna go do just that, but oil is something that can't be disregarded


Why anyone at this point is still formulating rational responses is a mystery to me.

 

[Leonardo629]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
The maintenance minder feature on my civic starts a fresh oil change at 100% and at 5-6k miles it hits 50% which to me means the oil is working at half of its full efficiency and 100% sounds better than 50% any day.

If the maintenance minder tells me to [do something stupid] doesn't mean I'm gonna go do just that, but oil is something that can't be disregarded


That's totaly not how OLM works, 50% life is not the same as 50% efficiency. For a Honda, running an oil like M1, you can typically go to 0% oil life and still be fine.

What was your SAT score?

 

[mongo161]

IMHO...Mobil 1, EP, oil filters are great filters and Fram Ultra, oil filters are great filters. There are many very good oil filters on the market that can be used for 2 or 3 back to back OCI's.

IMO....keep your eyes open for clearance deals on quality oils and quality oil filters.

A couple of months back, you could pick up a variety of M1, EP, oil filters, boxed and brand new, at Rock Auto for $3.00 and change

Quality motor oils can be found at clearance prices if your patient and wait. IMO....there is no such thing as a "Bad", nationally recognized motor oil on the market today, conventional or synthetic.

For the best deals....IMHO...You have to "think outside of the box" since most oils can be blended and mixed, especially within the same oil family. Otherwise, they could not have an API rating.

Welcome....and best of luck.

 

[Oregoonian]

Originally Posted By: stchman
To the OP:


I can get Mobil 1 0W-20 EP at my local Walmart for $28.68 while Mobil 1 0W-20 AFE for $26.44, these are 5 quart jug prices.

You can get a Fram Ultra oil filter and run the EP for ~10K miles.


And QSUD 0W20.....FOR $21.87 (5 Quart jug).....at WalMart.

 

[bigt61]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
All of your points are well made..........

Maybe I'm a gluten for financial punishment


I love that! I'm definitely going to borrow it.

 

[NavyVet88]

Yeah I think we are beating a dead horse at this point. Thanks to all for the info and the welcomes!

 

[kxc262]

Both are quality oils. I would just buy whichever one is on sale.
Pennzoil is running a fall rebate right now so it might be the cheapest option. Save $2 per quart.

PP is $25.17 at Walmart. After the rebate, it becomes $15. Hard to be that price.

Edit - If you are open to Pennzoil, Walmart has a bundle offer. The Pennzoil rebate applies to this. Additionally, Fram also has a $2 rebate on oil filters right now. Ultras are their best filters. Avoid their orange cans of death filters as they are poorly rated.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pennzoil-Plati...ndle-1/46069369

Your car won't notice a difference.

 

[NavyVet88]

Go ahead sir

 

[Benito]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
The maintenance minder feature on my civic starts a fresh oil change at 100% and at 5-6k miles it hits 50% which to me means the oil is working at half of its full efficiency and 100% sounds better than 50% any day.

If the maintenance minder tells me to [do something stupid] doesn't mean I'm gonna go do just that, but oil is something that can't be disregarded

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
My question is, is Royal purple any better than Mobil 1? Same or worse? I have always thought that RP was meant for racing applications only and me having a four cylinder Honda Civic isn't for racing.

Of course, this will turn into a fight here.

Regular API rated Royal Purple is a fine oil. Many consider it overpriced, but as I've pointed out time and time again, that's not always the case. If you can get RP for $2 a quart cheaper than M1, the answer is pretty easy. In the normal passenger car grades, such as 0w-20, 5w-20, 5w-30, and 10w-30, Royal Purple and M1 essentially meet the same specifications. They both offer long life warranties, with M1's being 10,000 miles and RP's something like 12,000 miles.

Don't worry about the dye. All motor oils have dyes. They're just not purple.

 

[NavyVet88]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: fscarano
I would like to use QSUD. But one guy was talking about oxidation....I'm not sure I may use M1EP.

Ignore the man behind the current, particularly since he's operating a sockpuppet.

 

[camrydriver111]

Originally Posted By: fscarano
I would like to use QSUD. But one guy was talking about oxidation....I'm not sure I may use M1EP.


LOL You're still thinking about this?

You've been here since 06 but taking advice from a troll?

 

[CT8]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
I change my oil without fail every 5k miles. I know I could get upwards of double that oil life in intervals with the oil and filter I use but I'm just paranoid with anything over 5k.
Why do you believe that syn oils are better but don't believe they last longer? You are not getting any benefits from syn oil at convention oil change intervals.You money and your misconceptions go for it.

 

[A_Harman]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
The maintenance minder feature on my civic starts a fresh oil change at 100% and at 5-6k miles it hits 50% which to me means the oil is working at half of its full efficiency and 100% sounds better than 50% any day.

If the maintenance minder tells me to [do something stupid] doesn't mean I'm gonna go do just that, but oil is something that can't be disregarded


The maintenance minder isn't designed to tell you what to do with your manhood. It's only there to tell you what percentage of the oil life is remaining.

ANY name-brand conventional oil is good for 5000 mile oil changes in a modern engine.
Dumping M1 Extended Protection at 5000 miles is wasting 2/3 of its value.

 

[AirgunSavant]

Your so anal that you'd have to think about it so long the opportunity would be lost anyway. Analysis paralysis.


Originally Posted By: NavyVet88

If the maintenance minder tells me to [do something stupid] doesn't mean I'm gonna go do just that, but oil is something that can't be disregarded

 

[loneryder]

At 5k OCIs I'd be using the cheapest 0W-20 I could find, including synthetic blend options. M1 EP dump at 5k is really a waste of partially used oil.

If he wants to use Mobil 1 and it's all the same price at Wallys, why not use the EP? That's why I buy it for my motorhome. Don't necessarily need it but it cost the same.

 

[Torrid]

Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: fscarano
I would like to use QSUD. But one guy was talking about oxidation....I'm not sure I may use M1EP.


LOL You're still thinking about this?

You've been here since 06 but taking advice from a troll?


My hope is that he's just joking and your sarcasm meter just needs some fine tuning.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
All of your points are well made in regards to my question(s) especially pointing out that I do dump a15k oil every 5k miles. I do this specifically out of paranoia. I can contribute this mindset due to an analogy I heard from a family mechanic about 3 years ago.
"Whether you buy the Walmart brand milk "great value" or you buy the most expensive brand milk, your gonna always pay more for the upper brand milk but it's gonna expire around the very same time the cheaper milk will, I utilize the same thought process with motor oil and I have been for over 35 years."

Now granted milk and motor oil are an absolute obvious day/night difference, I can't help but have this in mind when look at motor oil only difference in how I process it is that I want the best that I can afford for the only vehicle I have.
I've noticed that the majority of you guys have more than just one vehicle setting in the yard to backup one another in the event you have to take a different one anywhere. Again I only have one vehicle and I want it to last a very long time and running a cheaper oil in it just doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy. Maybe I'm a gluten for financial punishment when it comes to the oil i side with(Mobil 1 EP) but I don't mind it if I'm dumping oil prematurely I'd rather know that I have quality oil on a rock steady oci than oil that I can't remember the last time I changed especially when it's from the bargain bin wherever it was bought.



Whomever dictated that oil analogy is clueless.
Long life oils are formulated for longer life. Period. Paying a premium for a long life oil and dumping it at short intervals is stupid. Long life oil doesn't protect better than a conventional,it lasts longer in service.
So if you aren't extending the interval why even use a long life oil. It makes no sense.

The past few days I've seen a few complete nonsense posts and it seems to be getting worse. Apparently common sense isn't common anymore