Excellent and thoughtful post, it pretty much sums up how I feel about America trying to change people’s views they’ve had for over 100 years in the Middle East and Europe.
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Excellent and thoughtful post, it pretty much sums up how I feel about America trying to change people’s views they’ve had for over 100 years in the Middle East and Europe.
When, prey tell, have we pushed Russia "into a corner"???
By building better more effective weapons then theirs? Then we have pushed China into a corner there too.
By building better more effective weapons then theirs? Then we have pushed China into a corner there too.
The news channels are in the entertainment business. They live and die by ratings just like any loathsome reality TV show. They have no obligation to report the truth. They can report whatever they want, and they're only going to report things that are sensational and "breaking news". They put "breaking news" on just about everything. Anything to grab your attention so they can spoon feed you some bull****.
If more people would realize that Fox, CNN, CBS, NBC, etc... are just reality TV shows, maybe they'd start to be a little more skeptical. Then again, a lot of people think "reality" TV is actually real so I may be giving the populace too much credit.
If more people would realize that Fox, CNN, CBS, NBC, etc... are just reality TV shows, maybe they'd start to be a little more skeptical. Then again, a lot of people think "reality" TV is actually real so I may be giving the populace too much credit.
Sadly I can usually sum up most of what someone's views are these days by which news channel they have going constantly in the background. I haven't watched TV in a few years. One of my family members was in the local news in 2015, everything they reported was false. After a lawsuit they had a little one-liner semi-retracting what they said. Nobody can form their own opinion these days, they just believe everything they hear. Critical thinking is important, and common sense isn't a flower that blooms in everyones garden apparently.
NATO and our country has not been thinking very well for a long time now….
NATO should have been disbanded by the mid 1990s.. . And it should not have continued to add members east with zero thought of what that meant to another nation.
One that was invaded from the west and lost tens of millions of its own citizens.
They have not forgotten that…. Unlike US.
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I am not sure that is true…. Because if that were TRUE…. We should have gone to WAR in 2014.
We didn’t….
Which being perfectly candid I’m very glad we didn’t.
Stupid signed paperwork…..Means nothing…
Germany and the USSR signed an agreement about Poland….
How did that turn out ?
Chamberlain signed papers too….
Meant nothing.
No it’s not good at all only in my opinion ….
Phony numbers by both sides … Which I haven’t trusted for 20 years…
Garbage in … garbage out…
Just like 2003-2008…. I didn’t believe the “ hype” then either…. And that was a fact. I did not.
Inflation very high and the Federal Reserve has no options…. That are good.
Continue to raise interest rates and Crush the economy.
Or push rates lower and continue to digitize trillions that will “help” momentarily yet hurt everyone more harshly as time moves forward.
To be fair… this whole circumstance has been set in motion for 25 plus years.
Both groups in authority have been a party to that.
A trap is closing in at some point…. And it was set in motion in the late 1990s.
Easy money theory and artificially low interest rates fueled a massive bubble… Plus the removal of the Glass-Stegall act which both parties agreed to end. Then after that massive bubble burst the brilliant people started it up all over again and again and again.
In the 2002-2007 time frame when real estate doubled in value in the course of 5 years and yet people’s incomes were stagnant…. I knew something was terribly, terribly wrong there.
We have had similar event in the past 5 years… Another bubble created.
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You may have hit the nail on the head about much of the population. I often cringe when some reporter will get into the public and ask some simple questions and what is flat out scary is how many of them will get that deer caught in headlights look. It does not paint a good picture of us as a Nation. I fear far too many know more about Americas Got Talent or The Masked Singer tv shows than they know about who their kid's own teachers are etc.....
With Russia and the Cold War I feel like that was mainly weapons, there wasn't really any other country that could have match USA's industrial might until the end of the Cold War. Then China came by and while the USA tried to limit their economic growth (after praising them) they became a massive economic powerhouse within a few decades. But now it seems like China's control over their own population gets looser the bigger their middle and upper class gets.
I’m not saying they won’t cause trouble…
However….
In this case…. It’s not a legitimate fight for US to be engaged with… not at this time.
I’m sorry…. But WW III is not worth starting over a nation that shares a border with them. And the world champions want to be a part of an old outdated treaty alliance that has never paid any thought to the idea that moving eastward was a bad idea.
Nor is our funding of that war or supplying them with any armaments.
UNLESS…, We supplied them very COVERTLY and not had mental midgets crowing on live TV about us doing that… it’s not remotely intelligent to do it this way.
We did that in Afghanistan in the 1980s … They did that in Korea and Vietnam…. No one ever openly talked about doing that from high level government positions.
Very good discussion guys…
I mean this very sincerely and seriously as I type this..
If I am wrong… I will be very, very happy about being wrong and off about things. I mean that. 100 percent.
I have learned that sometimes in life being very wrong in some circumstances can be a very, very good thing.
I have a very solid track record… but not perfect. No doubt there.
I mean this very sincerely and seriously as I type this..
If I am wrong… I will be very, very happy about being wrong and off about things. I mean that. 100 percent.
I have learned that sometimes in life being very wrong in some circumstances can be a very, very good thing.
I have a very solid track record… but not perfect. No doubt there.
You make a lot of valid reasonable points. There is so much to consider as this topic encompasses so many different areas. I don't think anyone knows how to fix it either. My point was it's not just here and I don't entirely buy into the doom and gloom.
I thought this was a thread about the Draft? 
These things get morphed off subject and then get locked!
These things get morphed off subject and then get locked!
Current NATO nations having a land border with Russia include Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania (joined 2004), and now Finland (joined 2023) and considering the little isolated western part of Russia between Poland and Lithuania, Poland joined NATO in 1999.
There's no point arguing with someone who doesn't take a few minutes to get the basic facts right.
Fair point … to a solid degree.
But those extremely small states are a part of that eastward creep… Those states would be steps in a direction that could led to a point of provocation…
That one nation wants to be added….
With a SHARED border….
And they are hostile with one another. Both sides…
And like I have said… moving east with NATO was never a good idea.
Seriously. Not a good plan there. Never was… You push and push and push and push someone or some nation too far. . It can possibly not be good.
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