Michelin Pilots Peeling Tread at 25K

[JLTD]

Originally Posted by SteveSRT8
Over six years old and looking "rode hard and put up wet"!

Time for new tires.

I have purchased Pilot summers since 98, never had an issue other than wearing out quickly. And my newest set of Plus 4's are warranted for 30k miles...



Agreed; those look like they've seen a lot of hard cornering and rough city streets. Plus, 6 years....

 

[MrMoody]

Originally Posted by KalapanaBlack
These were 235/55R17 99H. Not crazy cheap. Most places were around $850 installed, TireRack was just over $700 for just tires. I ended up finding the best deal at Wal-Mart, even though they didn't know anything about the tires. They got them in 1 day and installed w/ tax and roadhazard the total was not quite $800.


Yeah, that size is a lot more expensive than my 225/60-16s. I bought them from Amazon and know a local guy who will mount and balance for $10/wheel off the car. I don't want them over-tightening my lugs anyway: a very common practice. I've only ever lost one tire to a road hazard, and that was in the early 90s. But Walmart has free rotation, too, I believe.

 

[Jarlaxle]

That's the same size my Vic uses.

I don't run all-seasons, so I won't be much help.

 

[dtocci59]

Michelin Pilot A/S 3+ are crap tires. Like the initial post, I have an 2005 Acura TL. Install new Pilot A/S 3+ before giving car to my daughter who is a very tame driver. Both front tires look like the pictures Wolfshead after 10k. Back tires looked fine. Moved backs to front and put new A/S+3 on back. 4000k later with me driving car the front tires have started to peel and chunks are missing. I drive calmly on paved roads always. No excused for these tires to peel away other than being pieces of ****. Pictures are very small example of what is happening over both fronts....mind you these use to be on the back. Something is very wrong with manufacturing process. Obviously front tires get abused more with turning and accelerating on fwd car but this should not happen. Have used bridgestone, continental and other michelins on this car with no issue. Front end was check, no issues, alignment is dead-on. Also check mfg date which was dated 4 months before I bought them, so not a case of old/dry rotting in distribution center. Tires are simply crap! Going back to Discount Tire to get some money back.

 

[mightymousetech]

Appears that tires are down to the wear bars at 2-3/32 so you wore out the tires. Ed

Exactly. You can see it worn down to the wear bar. When you get that low, the tread rubber is basically gone and you are exposing the carcass rubber. That is why it looks like it does.

 

[mightymousetech]

Michelin Pilot A/S 3+ are crap tires. Like the initial post, I have an 2005 Acura TL. Install new Pilot A/S 3+ before giving car to my daughter who is a very tame driver. Both front tires look like the pictures Wolfshead after 10k. Back tires looked fine. Moved backs to front and put new A/S+3 on back. 4000k later with me driving car the front tires have started to peel and chunks are missing. I drive calmly on paved roads always. No excused for these tires to peel away other than being pieces of ****. Pictures are very small example of what is happening over both fronts....mind you these use to be on the back. Something is very wrong with manufacturing process. Obviously front tires get abused more with turning and accelerating on fwd car but this should not happen. Have used bridgestone, continental and other michelins on this car with no issue. Front end was check, no issues, alignment is dead-on. Also check mfg date which was dated 4 months before I bought them, so not a case of old/dry rotting in distribution center. Tires are simply crap! Going back to Discount Tire to get some money back.

Who did the suspension check and alignment? You definitely have a problem, in a 2005 TL, most likely the compliance bushings need to be replaced. When those bushings are worn, or separated, the toe will change drastically when accelerating or braking.

 

[wdn]

Those are 8 year old tires that are worn down to the wear bars. Used up both according to age and treadwear. They are overdue for replacement regardless of their appearance. OE tires are not guaranteed for mileage by most manufacturers either: only the aftermarket tires come with a treadwear warranty.

 

[Astro14]

Michelin Pilot A/S 3+ are crap tires. Like the initial post, I have an 2005 Acura TL. Install new Pilot A/S 3+ before giving car to my daughter who is a very tame driver. Both front tires look like the pictures Wolfshead after 10k. Back tires looked fine. Moved backs to front and put new A/S+3 on back. 4000k later with me driving car the front tires have started to peel and chunks are missing. I drive calmly on paved roads always. No excused for these tires to peel away other than being pieces of ****. Pictures are very small example of what is happening over both fronts....mind you these use to be on the back. Something is very wrong with manufacturing process. Obviously front tires get abused more with turning and accelerating on fwd car but this should not happen. Have used bridgestone, continental and other michelins on this car with no issue. Front end was check, no issues, alignment is dead-on. Also check mfg date which was dated 4 months before I bought them, so not a case of old/dry rotting in distribution center. Tires are simply crap! Going back to Discount Tire to get some money back.

That looks like wear from a worn suspension, and/or bad alignment, not from junk tires. Particularly if the driver is “tame”.

When the shoulders are gone like that, and the tires wear out quickly, suspension needs to be squared away before you get new rubber. Don’t be surprised if Discount Tire tells you the same thing.

How many miles on your Acura?

I’m on my second set of Michelin Pilot AS3+ on my Mercedes. It’s a big, heavy car with over 500HP and 600lbft of torque. I push it through corners, it’s so much fun with the active suspension, and I (gasp) floor it now and then because that’s so much fun, too. Not at all “tame”.

The Pilot AS3+ are wearing evenly and lasting well on that car, which should be far harder on tires than your Acura. However, the S600 has all new bushings, ball joints, and tie rods. The alignment is spot on and the suspension is tight.

 

[demarpaint]

Those tires look old and worn, but I swore I'd never buy another Michelin tire over 25 years ago, due to cord separation. Fast forward 25 years, and I still won't own one.

 

[JustinH]

OE tires never have any warranty, and in my experience they are of lesser quality than what you purchase yourself.

I've owned several new cars with junk firestone/bridgestone/goodyear on them.

Firestone had a house brand, I forget what it was, but they came on a used car I bought.

They recalled those tires for tread separation. So I got a free set of tires from them. One year later, the tread actually separated on the replacement tires, so I swore off Firestone for a while.

This was on a Scion XB, and yes the tires were inflated properly at all times.

 

[TrainingPolicy]

Wait... the tires are SIX years old? Typical tires need to be replaced every 3-4 years simply due to mileage. I understand you don't drive that much, but you can't cheat time. Six years are a long time for rubber, everything starts breaking down eventually. At least you noticed it and didn't end up like some people and learn the rubber is dry rotted when they hydroplane into a guardrail. I believe this is due more to limitations of matter and less to do with the brand. I'd like to see examples if you beg to differ.

 

[silversport]

I have Michelin A/S 3+ on my Cadillac CTS sport Wagon...they've been on for over 4 years and 23K miles...the car is not a daily driver but I keep up with tire psi and the car appears to be properly aligned...my tires appear as new upon their last inspection by me...great tire for my particular use of year round including Winter in ChicagoLand...

Bill

 

[dtocci59]

Amazing how many folks can judge so much from a couple of pictures. Suspension is fine. Alignment is fine. Checked by dealership (who'd be happy to take my money if they found something wrong) and a private shop. No issues. Both said the same thing, tires are defected. The tires are not gone. Plus... you can find thousands of picture of many tires with tread completely gone and there is no "separation" of tread as shown in my pictures and the guy creating original post. Ya'll ever hear of a thing called a "defect" batch in mfg process.

That looks like wear from a worn suspension, and/or bad alignment, not from junk tires. Particularly if the driver is “tame”.

When the shoulders are gone like that, and the tires wear out quickly, suspension needs to be squared away before you get new rubber. Don’t be surprised if Discount Tire tells you the same thing.

How many miles on your Acura?

I’m on my second set of Michelin Pilot AS3+ on my Mercedes. It’s a big, heavy car with over 500HP and 600lbft of torque. I push it through corners, it’s so much fun with the active suspension, and I (gasp) floor it now and then because that’s so much fun, too. Not at all “tame”.

The Pilot AS3+ are wearing evenly and lasting well on that car, which should be far harder on tires than your Acura. However, the S600 has all new bushings, ball joints, and tie rods. The alignment is spot on and the suspension is tight.

Amazing how many folks can judge so much from a couple of pictures. Suspension is fine. Alignment is fine. Checked by dealership (who'd be happy to take my money if they found something wrong) and a private shop. No issues. Both said the same thing, tires are defected.

 

[4WD]

Appears that tires are down to the wear bars at 2-3/32 so you wore out the tires. Ed

No, used them too much when they were new …

 

[Danno]

Curious on the wear rating on the sidewall, would be surprised if it was 300 or lower being an OE tire.

 

[dubber09]

It may depend on where OP is from, I've been all over USA and gotta say some places have horrible paved roads that would be very hard on tires.

 

[Jetronic]

Seen that too on fairly worn tyres. Come to think of it I believe all were Michelins. But all also had the 4 season style sipes in the shoulder blocks and all were due for replacement anyway.

It's not something that would stop me from getting Michelin tyres, but i might not be getting Michelin 4 seasons... The crossclimates I have don't share this issue so far after 5 years. They will go back on for the next winter soon

 

[Wheel366]

My friend has AS 3+ on his WRX and absolutely loves them. I've only had Michelin non all season on my S4 starting with MXX3, Pilot Sport and now PS2 and other than popping a few from pot holes (also bent rims) and uneven wear due to control arms being shot I have had no problems. My wife has Defender LTX I believe on her CRV and after 50k and ~3 years they still have a good amount of tread left. She isn't driving it as much now because she is driving my car which needs some mileage put on it.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Those tires look old and worn, but I swore I'd never buy another Michelin tire over 25 years ago, due to cord separation. Fast forward 25 years, and I still won't own one.

After the way they treated people with problems (especially with their exploding XRV tires), I will run 4 different used Chinese trailer tires before giving a cent to Michelin.

 

[Rand]

OEM tires.. blame Dodge, also they look worn out.. time for new ones.