M3P Ludicrous Review

We are all different and there are vehicles for all of us. My 84 year old mother drives a Prius to save fuel and she loves her car!

I am absolutely a HP junkie. Even at 60 years old, I want a vehicle to rock my world. If it has enough power to rip the tires loose, I'm happy. If it responds instantly, pulls over a "G" in cornering and has epic race-car brakes, I'm in heaven. Add in a comfortable conforming seat, a drop-top and I'll drive all day, loving every minute of it.

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I have always wanted a "3G car". Im so close with my current SUV. Obviously over a G braking, and over 0.9 lateral and accelerating, but not quite over the 1.0 threshold.
 
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I am not getting the point of your fantasy trips, in a previous post you said you will not be doing 0-60 or going faster than 100mph.
OK, lemme try again.
My point is, the new M3P is a bargain for the performance you are getting.

It's just that simple. My thread is "MP3 Ludicrous Review". The video I posted is a review.

By the way, "Once" is wrong.
You are correct, I will not do a 0-60 run and will rarely if ever hit 100 mph. I am buying the car because I want it, not because I need it; I have plenty of vehicles now. And I will miss our 2018 Mid Range, it's been a great and really fun car.
 
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There is no point in saying x did y when x is not x. When GM wins Lemans outright then you can say something. Ford needed Lola to do it, GM still hasn’t won it outright. Top speed on the Mulsanne used to be much more important than it is nowadays. Nowadays the entire package matters more than top speed The race is on HBO in another hour. Corvette should do well, if they last. They have been having issues since their move to GT3. Toyota is probably hoping they don’t look like a bunch of clowns like last year.
You miss the point. I was replying to your post #90 where you seemed to say I claimed a stock L88 car could hit 200 mph. That's simply wrong; I never said that.
@Trav mentioned the Daytona car in question was a racer and of course he is right. No one has said otherwise.
In fact there are a number of L88 cars that were prepped for high speed tracks; others were geared for quarter mile times, etc.

You also said, "No stock Corvette ever went anywhere near that fast." Check your sources; the current Z06 hits about 190 and the ZR1 top speed is over 200 mph.
 
You miss the point. I was replying to your post #90 where you seemed to say I claimed a stock L88 car could hit 200 mph. That's simply wrong; I never said that.
@Trav mentioned the Daytona car in question was a racer and of course he is right. No one has said otherwise.
In fact there are a number of L88 cars that were prepped for high speed tracks; others were geared for quarter mile times, etc.

You also said, "No stock Corvette ever went anywhere near that fast." Check your sources; the current Z06 hits about 190 and the ZR1 top speed is over 200 mph.
No old stock Corvette past tense, relating to an L88. Quit playing semantics. You implied that a stock L88 Corvette would go 200+ at Daytona. It’s like saying my bicycle would do 300mph. It will if I drop it out of airplane.
 
No old stock Corvette past tense, relating to an L88. Quit playing semantics. You implied that a stock L88 Corvette would go 200+ at Daytona. It’s like saying my bicycle would do 300mph. It will if I drop it out of airplane.
I am not playing anything. I never said or implied anything like that. I clarified this in #103. If you want to know what I mean, just ask.

I quoted your words verbatim. If you meant only L88 cars, then correct yourself; state what you meant. I would.
 
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Tesla just sent me an update via app; car will be ready any day now, probably this week. Was due mid July to mid Aug. Cancellation maybe? Who knows?

I have 2 cash offers for our Mid Range. I will really miss this car. We charged in San Bruno on Saturday, coming home from Petaluma. The 250 kW Superchargers are crazy fast!

So the 2018 Model 3 Mid Range and 2006 TSX have to go. The TSX is like a family member. Been a great car.
 
Do what for 55K? An Audi S4 can run 250kmh (voluntarily limited) and cost less than 55K, it can also run at these high speeds longer than an ev. Interior, handling, brakes, fit and finish are superior.
S4 nicer car by long shot however it gets destroyed in real world driving by Tesla.

Those top end specs are great on s4 however in normal driving then wanting a quick spurt it takes way too much effort and drama.

Not comparable cars however Tesla has eaten the market share of Audi, BMW and MB.
 
The #1 reason EV owners go back to ICE is charging issues. The 1st thing I ask prospective buyers is, how ya gonna charge? Can you add a dedicated circuit to your service panel? Better find out.

Tesla knew they needed a Supercharger network to be successful.

If you are considering an EV, remember range is king. I looked at Lexus EVs, they are beautiful but so far behind the leaders it's not funny. Other makes, like BMW, are better, but have a long way to go range wise. The early Taycans, while beautiful and were Porsches after all, offered sadly disappointing range; this has improved.

The Washington Times is known for sensationalism and baldly distorting facts. Without detail, credibility is lacking and there is nothing new here.

There's a converse to the article title; how many buyers went from ICE to EV? Of course, the article has little to do with M3P Ludicrous performance anyway.
 
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I am having a hard time not thinking that the updated Model 3 will be by next car if the tax credit continues. The value for money is just too high for a daily driver and they've seemingly fixed everything that needed to be fixed with the original version (while breaking the turn signals). The alternative is a MK8 Golf R which will be slower, far more expensive to purchase and operate and not be as refined. The biggest thing still holding me back is having to do everything in the Model 3 with that ipad, but VW has adopted the same approach.
 
The story is in many publications but as with any and every article you don't like or agree with you blame the publication so nothing new here either.
I am asking for detail. Without context, the numbers can mean whatever you want.
Here's an article with context...

Did you know that current Tesla loyalty is 76% ? So what does your article have to do with an M3P review?
 
You don't think a article on a site named electrek who has a Tesla shop is not biased?
Every publication has Tesla loyalty as one of, if not the highest. I think they're junk cars, personally, but all but one of my friends who actually bought one, loves it. And no, its not just them defending a purchase. They buy them again, have other cars, etc and can afford most things that you can actually buy.
 
I work with Tesla owners and love their cars fiercely. The vehicles are so different they could not see owning anything else.
Some of it gets irrational. Especially FSD. It is quite different but that's what makes them interesting for sure. I really do like our car, but it's lacking some things that would make it my perfect daily. I still enjoy the GTI more, but not necessarily for the driving experience. I'd rather have some more physical buttons and CarPlay since I download my podcasts to cover the dead zones I drive through which the Tesla lacks the capability to download to car.

The GTI being tuned is faster than our Model 3, but a Model 3 Performance would absolutely trounce it. A Golf R would have to have more than a stage tune to even compete and to get close it would have to be a DSG car with launch control.
 
Not in the long run it wouldn't and with these geriatric speed limits it makes no difference. Imagine, no tablet, no cheap vegan leather aka plastic seats and cheapness all over the interior. Lets not talk about the top coming down, there is no comparison, you cant compare a toilet to a throne.
Depends what you’re buying for. Why can’t we go back to premium cloth? Leather real or fake isn’t premium feeling. It all sucks on a hot or cold day. We’ve been led to believe it’s the way because it’s accepted. What about Volvo’s wool? Can we just get off leather as this made up orgasmic experience? It sucks. It’s not about saving the cow. If it was the premium seating surface it’s what I would prefer. I’ve had many cars with leather. I wish that wasn’t a must with a higher end or premium car.

Let me just say I like leather for many purposes. I own many premium leather goods. For seating surfaces I'd literally pick anything else except synthetic leather. Nothing holds heat worse than rubber seats. Real leather isn't far behind.
 
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You don't think a article on a site named electrek who has a Tesla shop is not biased?
There is no doubt that there are 2 sides (or more) to every story. My point is, without context, raw numbers without detail can mean whatever you want. If you lump makes and models together, you end up with blurry generalities instead of meaningful specifics.

Your article points out what I have posted many times; the #1 reason owners go from EV to ICE is charging issues. These cars are not for everyone, no one car is. I am selling our 2018 Model 3 Mid Range; I have discouraged 2 people from buying it by explaining the truth about ownership. I always start with charging questions.

The article does not mention the new M3P; it has zero to do with my thread and offers nothing to the conversation.
 
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