M3 vs M3. $55K vs $120K. Who ya got?

[JeffKeryk]

Full disclosure, I do not know all the different BMW M3 configurations, but have always found them amazing. I've only owned 1, an 80's 3.
The race turned out different than I figured; the low end torque of the M3P should beat the BMW out of the hole, but the BMW was quicker. I thought the U-turn would favor the BMW, primarily due to superior braking. But it was close. I think the flat torque curve won this race.

Interestingly, the M3P has put down much faster 0-60 and qtr mile times than this. I am not that familiar with the BMW.
I wonder if they put the M3P into track mode, which slows it down to save the battery...

 

[6.7 CTD]

The M3 sounds so good…not the electric one

 

[mitsuman47]

The M3 sounds so good…not the electric one

M3 thread.

A much slower, but also much better sounding M3:

Edit: please note… no oil leaks!

 

[BISCUT]

Jeff, I take nothing away from the Tesla but I've always really liked what BMW does design and performance-wise. Good post, thank you.

 

[Oillover]

Really thought the M3 would catch up and pass near the upper-end speeds...
...guess not.

 

[Vercingetorix]

And a BMW is what 15 seconds or more faster around the Nurburgring? Something that shows driving isn’t only done with the right foot.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I was surprised the BMW was so quick off the line. I was also surprised how much it cost.
The BMW is 160# lighter, but the torque is down 70#ft of torque. I would like to see the torque curves, which is key. But the BMW still quicker, wow.

For $55 large, the Tesla M3P is a lot of car.
I have probably hit 90 mph in our car, but not purposely. It is easy to do... I will never use a car like these to their potential.

 

[6.7 CTD]

M3 thread.

A much slower, but also much better sounding M3:

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Edit: please note… no oil leaks!

Nice car! But, imo I prefer the sound of an inline 6 turbo engine such as the RB Nissans, 2JZ Toyotas, and this S58 M3.

 

[chris719]

I was surprised the BMW was so quick off the line. I was also surprised how much it cost.
The BMW is 160# lighter, but the torque is down 70#ft of torque. I would like to see the torque curves, which is key. But the BMW still quicker, wow.

For $55 large, the Tesla M3P is a lot of car.
I have probably hit 90 mph in our car, but not purposely. It is easy to do... I will never use a car like these to their potential.

The $80k M3 comp is essentially just as quick. Of course, nothing is close to the Tesla for price.

Really thought the M3 would catch up and pass near the upper-end speeds...
...guess not.

The newer Tesla motors don't lose as much torque at high rpm and the G8x is not the most aerodynamic.

 

[MCompact]

Give me an E30 or E46.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Give me an E30 or E46.

I want them all...

 

[meep]

Can we put the Tesla seats in the bimmer and do that?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

I was surprised the BMW was so quick off the line. I was also surprised how much it cost.
The BMW is 160# lighter, but the torque is down 70#ft of torque. I would like to see the torque curves, which is key. But the BMW still quicker, wow.

AWD.

 

[JeffKeryk]

AWD.

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They're both AWD. Please explain what you mean... Interesting!

 

[shortyb]

M3 thread.

A much slower, but also much better sounding M3:

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Edit: please note… no oil leaks!

No. No. No. Best sounding M3:

E90/92 with the S65 V8. Guy at church has a 2013 E90 in perfect condition. I keep bugging him to sell it to me.
I can't print what it does to my loins when it starts up .

 

[edyvw]

No. No. No. Best sounding M3:

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E90/92 with the S65 V8. Guy at church has a 2013 E90 in perfect condition. I keep bugging him to sell it to me.
I can't print what it does to my loins when it starts up .

It has amazing sound. But E46 CSL? That is something.

 

[mitsuman47]

It has amazing sound. But E46 CSL? That is something.

V8 CSL noises?

 

[edyvw]

V8 CSL noises?

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No, I am talking E46 M3 CSL with I6.

 

[mitsuman47]

No, I am talking E46 M3 CSL with I6.

Yeah, I’m just messing around. I have an Eventuri Carbon Plenum that gives CSL-esque sounds.

 

[jeepman3071]

Give me an E30 or E46.

+1

That new BMW M3 is difficult to look at.