has anyone heard or use lubrication engineers oils? is it better then delvac 1 or redline?
lubrication engineers oils
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We discussed this oil a little bit last year, Terry and Bob definitely know more about this oil.
It's another sleeper oil like Schaeffer Oil, it performs well but not many places sell it.
It's another sleeper oil like Schaeffer Oil, it performs well but not many places sell it.
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Check the website for more info; will need to contact a company rep for product distribution.
Check the website for more info; will need to contact a company rep for product distribution.
Never heard of it. More info??
I know a place where it has been discussed to death, but I don't go there any more.
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Give us a hint of where that place is, Userfriendly. I'd love to do some reading about this oil. My neighbor bought a case of their 15/40 and has been using it in his Chevrolet diesel for over a year now. I tried it in my TDI but it was noticeably noisier and much more sluggish. It was just too heavy for my little 1.9 liter.
I believe that they use a group I base oil and a very strong additive pacakge. The oil that I had gotten from my neighbor didn't carry the latest and greatest API rating. It was still SJ for gas and CH-4 for the diesel. They didn't list any other ratings.
I believe that the LE oils are all about their impressive additive package and their MONOLEC miracle supplement.
I believe that they use a group I base oil and a very strong additive pacakge. The oil that I had gotten from my neighbor didn't carry the latest and greatest API rating. It was still SJ for gas and CH-4 for the diesel. They didn't list any other ratings.
I believe that the LE oils are all about their impressive additive package and their MONOLEC miracle supplement.
Think I will stick with Schaeffer's Oil. I have not seen any VOA and UOA of Lubrication Engineer's Oil and not many seem to be aware that they even exist. In comparison, we have VOA and UOA of Schaeffer's Oil and many know about Schaeffer's Oil. It has been used sucessfully in racing, trucking, construction, etc.
Now, maybe LE oil is great stuff, but until we have some proof of that, I will stay with a known product.
I did check their web site. They talk a lot about the additives they use in their motor oils. They have a lot of fancy names for various additives. They also talk about how their oil is either a mixture of synthetic oil and mineral oil, or straight synthetic.
Now, maybe LE oil is great stuff, but until we have some proof of that, I will stay with a known product.
I did check their web site. They talk a lot about the additives they use in their motor oils. They have a lot of fancy names for various additives. They also talk about how their oil is either a mixture of synthetic oil and mineral oil, or straight synthetic.
Well I'll let you know I just ordered a case of the 8800 15-w40 to replace the Amsoil I currently run. I live in Plano Tx and the LE Hq is in Fort Worth. I pulled out ph number, board rules- not a site sponsor, no ad's please do not advertise for them like that. bob. My Dad is a trucker and he swears by the stuff and he has loged over a million miles useing LE products. Its more well known in the trucking and service industry, and construction than Wally World or Jiffy lubs.
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Brian D., that is really interesting. Are you going to do any VOA and UOA on the LE oil?
I have never heard of LE oil myself up until now. I have heard of Royal Purple, NEO, SynOil, Mystik, Schaeffer's Oil, Redline, Amsoil, SynLube, Torco, and lots of other motor oils but not LE.
Maybe LE oil is another fairly unknown oil that could be superior to what most people are using. You must have a lot of confidence to replace the Amsoil with it.
It would be interesting to see how it compares with oils like Schaeffer's and Redline.
I have never heard of LE oil myself up until now. I have heard of Royal Purple, NEO, SynOil, Mystik, Schaeffer's Oil, Redline, Amsoil, SynLube, Torco, and lots of other motor oils but not LE.
Maybe LE oil is another fairly unknown oil that could be superior to what most people are using. You must have a lot of confidence to replace the Amsoil with it.
It would be interesting to see how it compares with oils like Schaeffer's and Redline.
The info below - at least several months old now - is from a Lubrication Engineers' CLS, w/his permission (I also posted this in the thread "The New King" a couple of wks ago)
For whatever Falex & TFOUT are worth, like Timken, as a singular/narrow measures, and not comprehensive performance. But perhaps indicative of something! and fun to look at
My interest in LE also came from a couple of trucker's high regard for it: however, I'm currently using Delo 400
No Redline listed (maybe it beat out 8800
??). Many of the oils are also "Sx" rated, too.
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The first # is the Falex wear test (lower is better).
The second # is the TFOUT oxidation resistance (higher is better)
A good oil should have both low wear combined with good oxidation resistance.
All the oils tested were 15w-40 unless printed otherwise. All of the oils were API CH-4 licensed oils.
For whatever Falex & TFOUT are worth, like Timken, as a singular/narrow measures, and not comprehensive performance. But perhaps indicative of something! and fun to look at
My interest in LE also came from a couple of trucker's high regard for it: however, I'm currently using Delo 400
No Redline listed (maybe it beat out 8800
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The first # is the Falex wear test (lower is better).
The second # is the TFOUT oxidation resistance (higher is better)
A good oil should have both low wear combined with good oxidation resistance.
All the oils tested were 15w-40 unless printed otherwise. All of the oils were API CH-4 licensed oils.
Mystic.
I'm kinda new at this I got a free oil anly kit off this web site and I'll use it on the Amsoil frist when I change over to LE then I'll do another one on the LE then compare. Bob has a high regaurd for LE and almost all truckers do also. Idont know why its not more well known than it is; maybe because they dont push it like everybody else let it spread by word of mouth. Also as far as I know LE only has one manufracturing plant in KS so maybe they dont have the cap to go bigger. Ther are not many Lub companies that state that their oils can go up to 25,000 miles befor a change, Amsoil is one and the other is LE, in the trucks OTR trucks they say the 8800 can go a 100,000 between changes. Thats a pretty tall order to live up to.
I'm kinda new at this I got a free oil anly kit off this web site and I'll use it on the Amsoil frist when I change over to LE then I'll do another one on the LE then compare. Bob has a high regaurd for LE and almost all truckers do also. Idont know why its not more well known than it is; maybe because they dont push it like everybody else let it spread by word of mouth. Also as far as I know LE only has one manufracturing plant in KS so maybe they dont have the cap to go bigger. Ther are not many Lub companies that state that their oils can go up to 25,000 miles befor a change, Amsoil is one and the other is LE, in the trucks OTR trucks they say the 8800 can go a 100,000 between changes. Thats a pretty tall order to live up to.
I remember this oil being hashed out on the F150online message boards and from what I can remember it got nasty!
Strange: On the list of oil specs above, look at the differences between Cat 5w40 and Delvac1. Cat is relabeled D1. Why the difference, I wonder?
I believe thier MO,s contain Monolec,I wish I knew what it was,When the LE rep.stopped at the plant about a year and a half ago we did the mouse trap demo with their grease compared to some of the greases we had,after that he showed me the Monolec.If I remember correctly it appeared light brown in color and very fine like talc,my guess it would have a similar action as moly,according to him Teflon can only form 1 layer thick where Monolec forms 4 layers thick.I'm going by memory and my brain gets pretty crowded
so don't quote me on this.I do remember the gear lubes climbed really well with no air entrainment.
In that information comparing various motor oils that was supplied by LE, I notice that Amsoil oil was not tested. But I know that Amsoil makes a 15W-40 oil for big trucks and construction equipment.
I don't know as much about Redline, but Redline probably makes oil for big trucks and construction equipment as well.
Where is the testing of these oils?
I don't know as much about Redline, but Redline probably makes oil for big trucks and construction equipment as well.
Where is the testing of these oils?
If you look at the results of these 15w40 longhaul trucker oils, you will immediately notice their performances are way above what normal passenger cars require from the factory. That's why if you do any kind of hauling or pulling, or racing, they are highly recommended. Right now I'm using the 15w40 Royal Purple/Long Rider oil for my high horsepower/torque motor with extended drains.
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RB Shannon,
Good evening to everyone else here also.
RB you made a good try at the LE additives, however I'd like to clear up some facts. First I have worked for LE for almost 25 years. I'm a Tribologist, Certified Lubrication Specialist by the STLE (Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers). Since I'm not a sponsor here I will not try and sell anything. I will however try and help you understand who LE is and what they make.
Monolec is not tan colored and not powder. Monolec is a liquid and is a anti-wear agent, lubricity additive, and a self re-generating anti-oxident. It's color is clear. Monolec is used in some gear oils, engine oils, hyd oils, rock drill oils, etc.
Almasol is another chemical that LE uses. It must be the one that you remember. It is tan and a powder. Almasol is not used in engine oils. It is used in gear oils and greases.
LE has been in business since 1951 and markets their oils in 60 other countries besides the USA. They do not market their oils for public use and do not advertize. They mfg their oils for commercial use and because of that you might not see them until someone shows them to you at a trucking shop or a factory somewhere.
LM,
We did not test Redline engine oil because they do not seem to be a direct competitor in the commercial industry. We did test the Amsoil engine oil HDD 15w-40. It did do very well (as good as LE for low wear) but not as good for oxidation resistance. Amsoil asked if we would not print these results or their numbers so we have taken them off the list. My personal opinion of Amsoil is that they have one of the best oils on the market, just like LE.
I'm not trying to start any wars and I will not put another oil down on this site. My hopes are to answer facts about LE or their oils.
Hope this helped,
Kevin Dinwiddie CLS
Good evening to everyone else here also.
RB you made a good try at the LE additives, however I'd like to clear up some facts. First I have worked for LE for almost 25 years. I'm a Tribologist, Certified Lubrication Specialist by the STLE (Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers). Since I'm not a sponsor here I will not try and sell anything. I will however try and help you understand who LE is and what they make.
Monolec is not tan colored and not powder. Monolec is a liquid and is a anti-wear agent, lubricity additive, and a self re-generating anti-oxident. It's color is clear. Monolec is used in some gear oils, engine oils, hyd oils, rock drill oils, etc.
Almasol is another chemical that LE uses. It must be the one that you remember. It is tan and a powder. Almasol is not used in engine oils. It is used in gear oils and greases.
LE has been in business since 1951 and markets their oils in 60 other countries besides the USA. They do not market their oils for public use and do not advertize. They mfg their oils for commercial use and because of that you might not see them until someone shows them to you at a trucking shop or a factory somewhere.
LM,
We did not test Redline engine oil because they do not seem to be a direct competitor in the commercial industry. We did test the Amsoil engine oil HDD 15w-40. It did do very well (as good as LE for low wear) but not as good for oxidation resistance. Amsoil asked if we would not print these results or their numbers so we have taken them off the list. My personal opinion of Amsoil is that they have one of the best oils on the market, just like LE.
I'm not trying to start any wars and I will not put another oil down on this site. My hopes are to answer facts about LE or their oils.
Hope this helped,
Kevin Dinwiddie CLS
Kevin,
Being from Ft. Worth a long time ago, I always used to wonder who you guys where and what you did. Now I know. Your office building seemd to be so nice and well kept for the area. I was back in town for Christmas and noticed that it still looked the same. Made we wonder again. Since I used to work for Champlin Oil in Ft. Worth and Gulf in Houston, I probably noticed it even more. Good to see you outlived Gulf Oil and Champlin oil!
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Being from Ft. Worth a long time ago, I always used to wonder who you guys where and what you did. Now I know. Your office building seemd to be so nice and well kept for the area. I was back in town for Christmas and noticed that it still looked the same. Made we wonder again. Since I used to work for Champlin Oil in Ft. Worth and Gulf in Houston, I probably noticed it even more. Good to see you outlived Gulf Oil and Champlin oil!
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