Can someone send me a edited copy where they voiced over him and edited in a bobble head or a talking cat or something...
LSJr ... The Motor Oil Geek talks about motorcycle oils.
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On YT he has 151K subs, that's pretty good for somewhat niche subject matter. Man, I wish I had that many! Overall the comments on his videos are positive and indicate there is an audience for his content. Just b/c folks here don't like it (still not sure why?) doens't mean much in the larger picture. This is an incredibly niche forum and quite frankly, pedantic to the point it's ridiculous at times...that doesn't make content average folks want to see or read.
What I got out of it was that there was in fact a difference in motorcycle oil and typical automotive motor oils.
Great for the one who does not know.
Like any racing team out there, having sponsors, especially one's that supply your team with free oil helps keep them in business. Put some stickers on your vehicle, wear a tee shirt with the brand your promoting, and there's one more item you don't have to buy. Will it make your vehicle run cooler, cleaner, quieter and last longer ?, if it does what it's made to do, sure. But if you look at every brand of oil made, you will find thousands of people that will claim the oil they use is the best. So, who's right and whose wrong ?. If you were to use $10 a qt oil, and another person used $20 a quart oil, and if both vehicles lasted 200k miles with no engine damage, which is the better oil?.,,
I literally knew none of those things. Call me a Philistine.
It was probably one of his best videos as far as guest, info and cohesion. But really are people expecting a youtube channel to be the Ken Burns/David Attenborough of oil.
There used to be near death duels about this fact! Most people on BITOG said "No difference" (wrongo groupo think)
Wrongo group indeed.
You come up with some good words. Funny what we kill another BITOGER for.I am not an expert in the field of oil thingamagigery and stuff, but I think there is a connection between the lack of Moly in JASO MA\MA2 oils and SOME diesel oils being MA\MA2 compatible.
Funny enough, I started to examine some new Rotella T-6, which is what I predominantly used in my Honda bike, and some bottles state JASO MA\MA2, but list no S rating, which I find to be weird since nearly 0% of motorcycles are diesel. Maybe listing SJ, since it is obsolete, is worthless? Some diesel oils are "high" in moly, and no MA rating. Again not sure.
The JASO rating perhaps includes an S rating by proxy? Dont know.
Basically, if you use a car engine oil in a motorcycle, with a wet clutch, you are in the "wrongo groupo". And will likely be in the group of people who have to change their clutch pretty quick. Just use motor cycle oil, the good idea fairy will have to go mess with someone else.
I did try the Amsoil 10w40 ATV oil in the last fill of my ATV, and after three years
it shifted nicely.What is your youtube channel? Do you race your super bugs?
But that is not the question, gas\diesel..... it has to do with wet clutches. M1 0w40 FS is CF rated, and SP, but not JASO MA....there is a reason.
There were a couple of things I found interesting. 1st was one the difference between MA and MA2. Starting about the 12:00 minute mark, Lynn Groom the Amsoil guy, explained how dirt bike racers like to have a more slippery clutch, so the oil they developed for them has an MA rating. Street bikes don’t want or need that, so the oils for street bikes have an MA2 rating.
The other thing I liked was how they use 2 stroke weed wacker engines to test 2 stroke oil. Lynn Groom said they are cheap to buy, hard on oil and make a great test bed engine.
The other thing I liked was how they use 2 stroke weed wacker engines to test 2 stroke oil. Lynn Groom said they are cheap to buy, hard on oil and make a great test bed engine.
I managed to make it most of the way trough it and agree with Evo Man that was interesting, it is probably mean of me but speeds video would have been better to me, if speed had not been in it. Also either he's very short or Lynn is a giant.
More Lynn.
I'd like to see the difference in some various oils on the M8.
Although the MoCo says run the same oil in all 3 holes on the 103, i find it feels best with 3 different oils.
More Lynn.
I'd like to see the difference in some various oils on the M8.
Although the MoCo says run the same oil in all 3 holes on the 103, i find it feels best with 3 different oils.
Just look at my profile. Link is there under "website".
No, for me the question is, why do diesel oils not have friction modifers? What about OPE, marine oils, compressor oils?
In fact it might just be only API oils contaim them.... why?
Ill but Lake jr. would know specifically why. But that is a good question. My guess would be soot dispersancy by in large. Some diesel oil do contain friction modifiers though. interesting subject.
Of course, that might be your question, but that is not the point of the video, which was the topic.
His statement was strictly false, but let's just call it overly broad. Some diesel engine oils are too-low-friction to make MA. All of the FA-4 oils, for example, but some of the Cx oils, too. That's why some diesel oil makers will tell you their fluid(s) aren't compatible with wet clutches.
Ok. Then what are we all here on this forum doing the exact same thing for then? Isn't that why Bob is the Oil Guy exists?
I think just like any forum or You Tube channel you can't take anything as gospel. He might be a little irritating but I don't mind his videos. I didn't feel like he was trying to sell any oil, just pointing out that a diesel oil will work in a bike, but isn't optimal and explaining why.
Same with my Moto Guzzi V7 Special. Air cooled, gear lube for tranny and shaft drive, dry clutch. Plus a push rod, two valve motor. Doesn't get much better than that. Don't know why MG didn't just throw some hydraulic lifters in and be done with it. MG specs Castrol Edge 10w-60. Around $20 per quart.I love my Air cooled BMW bikes. Gearbox takes GEAR lube, dry clutch …no oil quandary at change time. Their newer bikes are different….just to keep you guys posting.
I was told here by Experts that you should never use a Motorcycle oil in a car engine, because it dont contains friction modifiers.
I was told here by Experts that a high quality full Synthetic (Group IV) 10W-40 motorcycle oil with a modern additive pack is a
"Old, low tech" oil.
Looks like my decision about Motorcycle oils in car engines was right:
I was told here by Experts that a high quality full Synthetic (Group IV) 10W-40 motorcycle oil with a modern additive pack is a
"Old, low tech" oil.
Looks like my decision about Motorcycle oils in car engines was right:
I would like to clarify my above statement.
He clearly know his stuff when in come to lubricants, and their applications in relationship to their effect of vehicles.
Further, the effect of, and or the ability to resist change, is what we are all after.
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