When Lake Speed Jr. talked about lubricity in fuel reducing wear, I believe he was referring to modern, EFI car engines which tend to be even a bit better in that regard than EFI motorcycles. So it is not just for older, carbureted engines and the like.I've run TCW3 in my bike for 18 years but it has no cat to worry about. Besides a bit of added lubricity it keeps the combustion chambers clean. I've never been inclined to try it on any engine with a cat and anyway modern engines are much more accurately fuelled.
It is, and it definitely helps. My first bike was an air cooled Ninja with a carburetor, and I definitely notice a difference with the Versys.Isn't the Versys a liquid cooled engine?
Thank you, and duly noted Jim. I had wondered about the octane change and if I should go up to counter balance. I already have been running one grade of octane higher most of the time while doing this. My bike calls for 87, and I've been putting mostly 89 in it, but I'm wondering if I should go up higher?Oil in gasoline lowers the octane. Lower octaine means it is easier to have knock and LSPI...,
I'll look around for the video and share it here and people can judge for themselves. One man's evidence might be another man's hearsay I suppose.Does he give any actual evidence of this reducing wear?
Do you go up in octane when you do this?I add 1oz of TCW-3 2 cycle marine oil to my 5 gal gas cans...
When Lake Speed Jr. talked about lubricity in fuel reducing wear, I believe he was referring to modern, EFI car engines which tend to be even a bit better in that regard than EFI motorcycles. So it is not just for older, carbureted engines and the like.
Do you go up in octane when you do this?
I'm assuming that since you're still doing it, you haven't noticed any negative effects?
Thank you for sharing the above.
Mhm. There are standard tests for wear and that’s what I was referring to, after that well…I'll look around for the video and share it here and people can judge for themselves. One man's evidence might be another man's hearsay I suppose.
I imagine like every human on this planet, he occasionally gets things wrong/off. But he does have a lot more knowledge, education, and real world experience than myself, and I suspect probably something like 98 to 99% or so people on this forum.Mhm. There are standard tests for wear and that’s what I was referring to, after that well…
LSJr isn’t quite as definitive as imagined sometimes.
Not any personal or business connections. I have just started watching his videos over the last half of year or so. I may, in the future, get some VOA's and UOA's from his business (but haven't done any yet).Just wondering, do you have any connection to Lake Speed Jr?
* I added bolding and italics.Some people use an upper cylinder lubricant (TCW-3 or Marvel's Mystery Oil) in their cars and bikes at every fill up. I find that it is a hassle to carry the oil around to squirt the tank every time I stop at the gas station. I just want to fill and go.* All my cars have gone well over 150K miles without it and still running fine when I sell them, so I don't see a need for daily use.
Oil in gasoline lowers the octane. Lower octaine means it is easier to have knock and LSPI, especially in an air-cooled engine that runs hot. Both ^ of those can damage the engine and LSPI can actually blast a hole through piston(s).
So, if your going to use 2 cycle oil in a 4 cycle engine, you want to also be using a higher than normal octane fuel, so when the oil reduces the octaind it's still within safe range.
That engine really likes to rev in the 300X. I think you would be better off using a good oil and oil change schedule than worrying about daily use of lubricants in the fuel.* I added bolding and italics.
Yeah, totally get that. My bike has a pretty large tank, 4.5 gallons, and so what I've been doing is just filling up a 5 gallon gas container and using that. Lasts me awhile. I haven't done any longer trips yet, but I probably wouldn't worry about it during those occasional occasions.
Barring a wreck, this is my second and last bike. I want it to last as long as possible, and I'm really curious if I can positively affect valve movement (reducing it). But yeah, I get where you are coming from.That engine really likes to rev in the 300X. I think you would be better off using a good oil and oil change schedule than worrying about daily use of lubricants in the fuel.
My friend went one tooth up on the front sprocket for better highway performance (dropped the revs a bit). He rode the heck out of that bike and loved it.
Barring a wreck, this is my second and last bike. I want it to last as long as possible, and I'm really curious if I can positively affect valve movement (reducing it). But yeah, I get where you are coming from.
I just bought a gallon of Pennzoil Marine Premium Plus 2-Cycle Synthetic Blend Engine Oil for just under $22. This one gallon will do me good for at least 35k miles.
Nice about your friends experience. Yeah, I have heard about that mod-haven't decided if I want to do that or not. I'm going to wait until I need to change the chain at least, if I do do it. (I plan to upgrade the chain)
One mod I plan to do in the near future is to make a removable homemade seat cushion booster out of latex foam-the longest lasting foam that I know of. The seat is not very comfortable. The longest ride I've done was 2 hours (with a short break half way in between) and while it wasn't horrible, it wasn't great either.
Cheers man
