Answer this: why would you do a UOA?
Ester based motorcycle oil
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Well that's the problem, I thought they told me how good the oil is and how my motor is wearing with it. From what you and kschachn are saying, it might not tell the whole story I am looking for. But I really don't know.
To a beginner UOA will tell you little - certainly not a magic decision tool.
Go ahead and do a UOA as a curiosity on the Honda oil.
Run your new oil choice 5K. Do a UOA. Repeat 3-5 times. Post these up. There will be some clues
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Out of all the current UOAs that exist out there, are there any "clues" that could point me to the oil I should pick for the next oil change in my bike?To a beginner UOA will tell you little - certainly not a magic decision tool.
Go ahead and do a UOA as a curiosity on the Honda oil.
Run your new oil choice 5K. Do a UOA. Repeat 3-5 times. Post these up. There will be some clues
Nope.
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Okay so do I start GN4 for for all the reports?
Sorry - Not sure I understand your question.
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I was referring to the Honda GN4 oil. As that is the cheapest and what is recommended in my owners manual. Or do you have a suggestion on what oil I should switch to do UOA on.
My recommendation specifically was to not focus on UOA's.
https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-10w-30-100-synthetic-metric-motorcycle-oil-mct/?zo=515729
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Ah, my bad. I thought you were saying to do that whole UOA regimen. And now, to come full circle to why I started this thread: you are recommending me Amsoil. Why? Besides the personal bias, is this cost-based, performance-based, etc.? I would like to know. By the way, I like Amsoil. I use it in a lot of stuff.
Of course I sell Amsoil. I have no idea where you get it though.
That said, I recommend it because it works.
Correct!!!
I use it l, it's a nice oil with good results.
Can I ask, this oil analysis you post is what someone buy right now ?
Good question about is it a recent sample of the Amsoil 5W30 and is it a recent sample of the M1 5w30. What are the dates?
I mean formulations often change from oil companies.
ex. Redline 10W40 was higher PPM Molybdenum that what is now.
So I am ask if this 10W30 Metric oil analysis is old data or nearly new one
Im not a fan of straight 10w30 in a motorcycle, a 10w40 or 5w40 will shear to a 30 weight in 1000 miles. Pretty much guaranteed.
Even the red line 10w30 which says slightly heavier than average. 2 quarts of 10w30 and one quart of 20w50 for longevity, after 2500 miles was reading a mid range 30 weight. Thats exactly why the 20w50 was added, to hold the grade.
4ppm aluminum
8ppm iron
flash 425
BTW my bike also says 8,000 mile oci, they can kiss it, but this motor will go 400,000 miles if you keep it in good oil. Manufactures want to get you through warranty not make the bike last forever, they'd be out of business .
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Exactly what I was saying. Is it a recent sample, which, apologies for not being clear, means of recent manufacture. What are the dates of the uoas as well? With the poster that shared that information, typically the dates are well in the past and they are not meaningful to the discussion at hand. It's been questioned many times why the dates are never posted with that information he shares.
I used to use Torco oils on my bikes I found esters and synthetics gave poor clutch feel. This might have changed over the years but I did get over 160 000 kilometers before totalling it when it was recalled for a hard facing issue on second gear at 89000 ks the dealer pulled it apart and said he'd never seen gears in such good condition so they replaced the rings as the gears where perfect it ran perfectly to 170.000 ks when a cager ran into me and totaled it but that's another storey