LSJR Boutique vs OTS shootout

[Klutch9]

LSJR come out come out wherever you are....View attachment 313727
100% BITOG copyright kosher

So can I use this as my avatar?

 

[TiGeo]

So can I use this as my avatar?

No. I had to start copyrighting them because my generic "avatar" that got stolen.

 

[Klutch9]

No. I had to start copyrighting them because my generic "avatar" that got stolen.

I was just kidding haha.

 

[ltslimjim]

why not consider AMSOIL Signature Series, its more affordable with the preferred customer pricing and does long oci with very good proven results.

I’ve had nothing, but positive results using anything Signature Series by Amsoil. Their gear oils and transmission fluids are 2nd to none.

I have to wonder why did people start sleeping on the Signature Series motor oil? Genuinely curious. Price up front? Not seeing the potential use in an engine when not planning to run out the interval? Probably the most important factor there, I suppose.

Is it the relative drop in starting TBN and perceived TBN retention or importance to extending OCIs; although many years ago now the shift in common understanding was that things like oxidation increase over baseline, going out of grade, or contamination etc were the condemning or limiting factors?

I remember 10–15 years ago when folks regularly and religiously compared oil analysis to see the additives and attempted to determine how good things were about the oil based on the additives a basic UOA reveals; all the while esters (depending), ANs, base oils aren’t shown there. Just weird to me that there is this perception people don’t value SS motor oil as much as other products under the SS lineup. I don’t think you can go wrong with that tier of product by Amsoil; under any category, if it fits your application and service needs.

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[GW.]

I’ve had nothing, but positive results using anything Signature Series by Amsoil. Their gear oils and transmission fluids are 2nd to none.

I have to wonder why did people start sleeping on the Signature Series motor oil? Genuinely curious. Price up front? Not seeing the potential use in an engine when not planning to run out the interval? Probably the most important factor there, I suppose.

Is it the relative drop in starting TBN and perceived TBN retention or importance to extending OCIs; although many years ago now the shift in common understanding was that things like oxidation increase over baseline, going out of grade, or contamination etc were the condemning or limiting factors?

I remember 10–15 years ago when folks regularly and religiously compared oil analysis to see the additives and attempted to determine how good things were about the oil based on the additives a basic UOA reveals; all the while esters (depending), ANs, base oils aren’t shown there. Just weird to me that there is this perception people don’t value SS motor oil as much as other products under the SS lineup. I don’t think you can go wrong with that tier of product by Amsoil; under any category, if it fits your application and service needs.

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This very vid may have opened some eyes. Many never took Amsoil’s third party testing seriously. Now those results match some of these results….

 

[FranklinJL]

I’ve had nothing, but positive results using anything Signature Series by Amsoil. Their gear oils and transmission fluids are 2nd to none.

I have to wonder why did people start sleeping on the Signature Series motor oil? Genuinely curious. Price up front? Not seeing the potential use in an engine when not planning to run out the interval? Probably the most important factor there, I suppose.

Is it the relative drop in starting TBN and perceived TBN retention or importance to extending OCIs; although many years ago now the shift in common understanding was that things like oxidation increase over baseline, going out of grade, or contamination etc were the condemning or limiting factors?

I remember 10–15 years ago when folks regularly and religiously compared oil analysis to see the additives and attempted to determine how good things were about the oil based on the additives a basic UOA reveals; all the while esters (depending), ANs, base oils aren’t shown there. Just weird to me that there is this perception people don’t value SS motor oil as much as other products under the SS lineup. I don’t think you can go wrong with that tier of product by Amsoil; under any category, if it fits your application and service needs.

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I think real car guys always knew Amsoil is good stuff. We've seen to many guys at track events use it. Thats how I know both their basic euro oils 5w40/10w60 are really good because a bunch of BMW drivers use it. Their motorcyle oils are top notch too

 

[mr_boring]

Fixed it for ya’…

OOOHHHH OOHHH mee meee!!!!


Workin' all week 9 to 5 for my money
So when the weekend comes I go get 6 quarts of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum
Rollin' down the street , sump full of SOPUS and she's a pumpin'
I winked my eye Pennzoil Ultra Platinum goes into the ride, went to a club, was jumpin'
Introduce myself as Boring, BITOG said "You're a liar"
I said "I got it goin' on baby doll and I'm on fire"

(but not from SOPUS, it don't make no fire)
(it's about $45 a change and that's with filter)
(no copyright infringements here, just a little plagiarism)

 

[4wd]

OOOHHHH OOHHH mee meee!!!!


Workin' all week 9 to 5 for my money
So when the weekend comes I go get 6 quarts of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum
Rollin' down the street , sump full of SOPUS and she's a pumpin'
I winked my eye Pennzoil Ultra Platinum goes into the ride, went to a club, was jumpin'
Introduce myself as Boring, BITOG said "You're a liar"
I said "I got it goin' on baby doll and I'm on fire"

(but not from SOPUS, it don't make no fire)
(it's about $45 a change and that's with filter)
(no copyright infringements here, just a little plagiarism)

 

[cheesepuffs2]

I’ve had nothing, but positive results using anything Signature Series by Amsoil. Their gear oils and transmission fluids are 2nd to none.

I have to wonder why did people start sleeping on the Signature Series motor oil? Genuinely curious. Price up front? Not seeing the potential use in an engine when not planning to run out the interval? Probably the most important factor there, I suppose.

Is it the relative drop in starting TBN and perceived TBN retention or importance to extending OCIs; although many years ago now the shift in common understanding was that things like oxidation increase over baseline, going out of grade, or contamination etc were the condemning or limiting factors?

I remember 10–15 years ago when folks regularly and religiously compared oil analysis to see the additives and attempted to determine how good things were about the oil based on the additives a basic UOA reveals; all the while esters (depending), ANs, base oils aren’t shown there. Just weird to me that there is this perception people don’t value SS motor oil as much as other products under the SS lineup. I don’t think you can go wrong with that tier of product by Amsoil; under any category, if it fits your application and service needs.

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Their sales model is massively off-putting.

 

[drtyler]

Their sales model is massively off-putting.

In what way? I have always used their website to place orders, and the product is delivered to my house. Same as Amazon, Walmart, or Rockauto.

 

[MrStamper]

Their sales model is massively off-putting.

Exactly. You can perform 3 oil changes with Mobil or Pennzoil products for the price of 1 amsoil oil change.

 

[tired]

Ravenol is $20/L shipped to me. AMSOIL Signature Series at my local retailer is $18/qt

why not consider AMSOIL Signature Series, its more affordable with the preferred customer pricing and does long oci with very good proven results.

Agree. You can get AMSOIL Signature Series at 10.49/quart if you get the case of 4 gallon jugs. You also get 5% back every year and $5 on your birthday.

While it's difficult to compare Amsoil and HPL directly, (less known about Amsoil base oils), using cold flow info as a proxy for base oils, AMSOIL Signature Series likely sits between Premium and Premium+ PCMO.

 

[tired]

Exactly. You can perform 3 oil changes with Mobil or Pennzoil products for the price of 1 amsoil oil change.

Where are you getting Mobil 1 Extended Performance, Mobil 1 ESP or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum / Pennzoil Platinum Euro for 3.49/quart? Actually even less because you have 2 additional filter changes.

 

[rstsco]

Where are you getting Mobil 1 Extended Performance, Mobil 1 ESP or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum / Pennzoil Platinum Euro for 3.49/quart? Actually even less because you have 2 additional filter changes.

Either from a troll... or somewhere daylight rarely falls upon. Regardless...

Lake even added a cost per quart comparison, realizing some people are looking only at the initial cost and not the overall cost benefit of using an oil such as AMSOIL Signature Series or one of HPL's offering. Amsoil even offers product lines XL and OE if you still want some of the benefits of using a higher quality oil at a lower price point.

Some of us choose to spend our money up front on what we believe are better choices for our engines based on our criteria and not spend all day rubbing two nickels together.

 

[GRjdm]

Like many things, engine oil follows the law of diminishing returns.
People just have different price points, above which pay more money isn't worth the supposed (if even significant) benefit.

 

[rstsco]

Like many things, engine oil follows the law of diminishing returns.
People just have different price points, above which pay more money isn't worth the supposed (if even significant) benefit.

But you don't find out if you made the correct decisions for your engine and how hard you push it until it's too late... or until the car falls apart around it. That's the moment you will know.

Completely understand price sensitivity. My wife retires the end of this month. If I hadn't already piled up five cases of HPL Premium Plus PCMO gold, I might be using a less expensive oil... or not. It all about choice, and there's no shortage of them.

 

[TacoFergie]

It's a bit oxymoronic how some members criticize the cost of XYZ boutique oil. But they're also willing to spend $30+ on an oil analysis for their $30 OTS oil every 5k mile dump... When in reality you could run Amsoil or HPL for the same mileage, not worry about the analysis knowing the oil is more than capable of 5k in almost any circumstance and come out ahead monetarily.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

In what way? I have always used their website to place orders, and the product is delivered to my house. Same as Amazon, Walmart, or Rockauto.

in the way that there’s one overly inflated price, and then a discounted “preferred” price that you need to pay a flat fee to unlock. That’s always been ridiculous to me.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

It's a bit oxymoronic how some members criticize the cost of XYZ boutique oil. But they're also willing to spend $30+ on an oil analysis for their $30 OTS oil every 5k mile dump... When in reality you could run Amsoil or HPL for the same mileage, not worry about the analysis knowing the oil is more than capable of 5k in almost any circumstance and come out ahead monetarily.

I agree. I run “Walmart oils” and never get UOA. I know that Mobil 1 can handle my 6,000 to 7,500 mile intervals just fine, and I’m not paying for analysis when they same cost could simply cover another jug of oil.

 

[Four Rings]

in the way that there’s one overly inflated price, and then a discounted “preferred” price that you need to pay a flat fee to unlock. That’s always been ridiculous to me.

Oh, like a Sam’s Club or Costco membership?