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China graduates far more engineers than the US. I don't like the fact that this happened, but our investment in education has to change.

Quantity over quality.
Communist systems do not reward intelligence, free thinking, innovation etc. Because by definition these people will pose a threat to the system.

A nail that sticks out gets the hammer.
 
Yes, the corporations moved Semiconductor Manufacturing over to China for cheaper labor and available engineering talent. China graduates far more engineers than the US. I don't like the fact that this happened, but our investment in education has to change.
Yeah, we have a lot of very smart people in finance... I don't blame them, but IMO a lot of that whole sector is just dead weight, or a tax, skimming cream off the top of the economy and people that actually do something useful.
It's hard to scale it back, as its always tempting to get something for nothing, and there's billions available to influence policy, and we all have a lot invested and depending on it continuing, but a gradual throttling back of the complexity and advantages for big investment groups would be good IMO.
 
Yeah, we have a lot of very smart people in finance... I don't blame them, but IMO a lot of that whole sector is just dead weight, or a tax, skimming cream off the top of the economy and people that actually do something useful.
It's hard to scale it back, as its always tempting to get something for nothing, and there's billions available to influence policy, and we all have a lot invested and depending on it continuing, but a gradual throttling back of the complexity and advantages for big investment groups would be good IMO.
Watch "Margin Call" tonight. A great movie.

Scott

 
Quantity over quality.
Communist systems do not reward intelligence, free thinking, innovation etc. Because by definition these people will pose a threat to the system.

A nail that sticks out gets the hammer.
The point is, corporations offshore due to financial reasons. In the case of engineering, there are many types and levels. Look at Tesla; their engineering HQ is Palo Alto. Hardly cheap, but as good as it gets. A few years ago, Ford opened a new engineering office in Palo Alto because of the talent here.

Silicon Valley used to engineer and manufacture here, but has moved most of the mfg out of the area and offshore.
You used to walk into a company and ask if they were hiring. They had you sign a simple application and put you on the line. They offered to pay for advanced schooling. This is basically what happened to me. Those days are gone.
 
The point is, corporations offshore due to financial reasons.

Silicon Valley used to engineer and manufacture here, but has moved most of the mfg out of the area and offshore.
And this is why the middle class is disappearing in Silicon Valley and has already disappeared in Detroit - the loss of manufacturing jobs. Not everyone can become an engineer, nor is everyone "college material".

I'm old enough to remember when offshoring manufacturing was supposedly a good thing because it got rid of "dirty industries". At the time it was said that America didn't want blue collar jobs anymore and wanted everyone to have white collars jobs. These claims were made by both government and industry.

Scott
 
And this is why the middle class is disappearing in Silicon Valley and has already disappeared in Detroit - the loss of manufacturing jobs. Not everyone can become an engineer, nor is everyone "college material".

I'm old enough to remember when offshoring manufacturing was supposedly a good thing because it got rid of "dirty industries". At the time it was said that America didn't want blue collar jobs anymore and wanted everyone to have white collars jobs. These claims were made by both government and industry.

Scott

I've been watching a bunch of history videos about cities that used to be manufacturing hubs. Places like Detroit, Gary Indiana, SE Chicago, and St Louis that used to have lots of factories and foundries but died after companies moved overseas for cheaper labor, leaving the local communities in a shadow of their former self. It's sad to drive past the massive abandoned warehouses, docks, and foundries in Gary, Indiana because you know there used to be some pretty awesome things made there.
 
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Yes, the corporations moved Semiconductor Manufacturing over to China for cheaper labor and available engineering talent. China graduates far more engineers than the US. I don't like the fact that this happened, but our investment in education has to change.
Part of that is that many American students are intimidated by the very bright Asian students in STEM courses, and a disproportionate number go into Law instead.

I read that the U.S., with approximately 4% of the world's population, has 25% of the world's lawyers.
 
Part of that is that many American students are intimidated by the very bright Asian students in STEM courses
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Part of that is that many American students are intimidated by the very bright Asian students in STEM courses, and a disproportionate number go into Law instead.

I read that the U.S., with approximately 4% of the world's population, has 25% of the world's lawyers.
Not sure where you getting the intimidation from, nobody is intimidated by the Asians lol.

The difference in enrollment is parenting. Most Asian, and European for that matter, parents push their kids into STEM, while American parents adopt “do what makes you happy” parenting approach. It’s that simple.
 
Part of that is that many American students are intimidated by the very bright Asian students in STEM courses, and a disproportionate number go into Law instead.

I read that the U.S., with approximately 4% of the world's population, has 25% of the world's lawyers.
When I was in engineering almost 30 years ago there were lots of Asians. They were all big cheats. Cheating was a group effort for them - they got together and exchanged assignments and such. Would sneak stuff into tests. So I was told by a girl they were always hitting on. She was also a cheat hence she let them.

Always wondered how they did in the real world?
 
When I was in engineering almost 30 years ago there were lots of Asians. They were all big cheats. Cheating was a group effort for them - they got together and exchanged assignments and such. Would sneak stuff into tests. So I was told by a girl they were always hitting on. She was also a cheat hence she let them.

Always wondered how they did in the real world?
I don’t want to paint all Asians with a wide brush, but generally that was my experience as well. Lots of cheating was going on.

I can sort of understand the behavior because if you were pushed by your parents into an engineering school and you don’t have the STEM talents, you will have a hard time for sure.
 
The difference in enrollment is parenting. Most Asian, and European for that matter, parents push their kids into STEM, while American parents adopt “do what makes you happy” parenting approach. It’s that simple.
THIS!

We had some family members who lived in one of the finest millionaire areas in all of Silicon Valley. Our family members very much had the "do what makes you happy" attitude, which resulted in one of their daughters scraping by in life and the other living in near poverty. Without their continued financial support their youngest (age 42) would be destitute.

Next door to them moved a Chinese family. They had a son who was the same age as my two school age family members (I need to be vague here). From middle school through high school the three of them went to the same public schools - which were top notch in every respect. Although they didn't socialize with him, my school age family members they told us the boy was super smart and obedient school.

Report cards were sent via USPS, and being neighbors the report cards arrived the same day. When the Chinese father came home from work they'd hear yelling and screaming, things banging and crashing, the boy crying his lungs out - probably because he got an A minus in something.

By absolutely no means do I condone this kind of parenting, but this is the competition. The kid's probably rolling in money right now with a high income job of some sort.

Scott
 
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THIS!

We had some family members who lived in one of the finest millionaire areas in all of Silicon Valley. Our family members very much had the "do what makes you happy" attitude, which resulted in one of their daughters scraping by in life and the other living in near poverty. Without their continued financial support their youngest (age 42) would be destitute.

Next door to them moved a Chinese family. They had a son who was the same age as my two school age family members (I need to be vague here). From middle school through high school the three of them went to the same public schools - which were top notch in every respect. Although they didn't socialize with him, my school age family members they told us the boy was super smart and obedient school.

Report cards were sent via USPS, and being neighbors the report cards arrived the same day. When the Chinese father came home from work they'd hear yelling and screaming, things banging and crashing, the boy crying his lungs out - probably because he got an A minus in something.

By absolutely no means do I condone this kind of parenting, but this is the competition. The kid's probably rolling in money right now with a high income job of some sort.

Scott
Your post reminded me of this video made and posted on youtube 18 years ago:
 
I applaud discipline and hard work regardless of ancestry. I scoff at the "entitled" attitudes regardless of ancestry.
I don't buy into racial stereotypes.I have learned so much from the diverse Silicon Valley population.

The only person who ever stopped me from succeeding was me. I learned that the person who prepared, did their homework, etc., consistently executed well. In sports, business, whatever; it's just that simple.

How bad do you want something? Is it just talk or are you willing to get into action?
 
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