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And once it’s part of a supply chain - it’s irrigated and chemicals are part of the runoff …
Lots of new Ram trucks rotting on dealer lots it seems
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It’s not, it may sound harsh because I don’t play the word games, but it was not an insult. Just an observation. Same as people calling my posts hard or bashful.
Try making your argument without appealing to a high moral sounding principle and see how that goes. It will not make sense I can assure you.
Being a farmer himself, your 39th wanted to keep farmland in production instead of paying farmers not to plant crops. The rest is history.
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I'm saying, specifcially this freedom WRT to cars; that view that trucks/suvs need to go doesn't stop at leaving it in the hands of consumers. They're coming for them, just like they're coming for all ICE vehicles, and like they're coming for 15 minute citys where cars are banned etc.
The rest of your post I won't reply to, this has gone on long enough.
It was as predicted in the 1940’s, so not 40 years ago.
And we already have population decrease and fertility decline. China has lost population several years and we would also except for immigration.
Our population is becoming increasingly impotent and diseased because our food is devoid of nutritional value due to what we predicted back in the 40’s
Our increases in lifespan have plateaued and are decreasing per most models, our youngest generation is smaller and dying at higher rates than the previous.
Much of our crop land can only grow gmo corn and soy which is virtually inedible without extensive processing , other more useful crops cannot grow due to lack of moisture and soil quality which are difficult to develop from scratch.
Despite valiant efforts by farmers altering their methods of farming top soil erosion is continuing to increase.
10% of western wells have gone dry in the last decade and we are approaching mechanical limits in many areas.
There are a not insignificant number of communities that get their water bottled or from rain barrels and AC because they can’t redrill a well deep enough to get water.
Our recent crop failure rates have gone up at a slow but predictable rate for about 20 years.
Those who don’t know just aren’t paying attention, maybe a slow boiling frog situation.
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Maybe, but there are more than enough RAM trucks to go around.
And more coming
I will say having dealt with this dealership before, they are excellent…….at least they were a few years ago.
This thread has had a number of posts that defy logic and are personally insulting, even when the authors of these posts claim that they are not.
I'm surprised that it's not locked.
I'll add this and then leave it alone.
Most of us are very capable of persuading ourselves that what we want coincides perfectly with what we actually need.
At least a couple of manufacturers have become quite adept at inducing the want with buyers who then construct the need for themselves.
When you have lemons you make lemonade and when you can only make money selling large and hefty vehicles then I think we know where the advertising and promotional dollars are going to go.
I'm surprised that it's not locked.
I'll add this and then leave it alone.
Most of us are very capable of persuading ourselves that what we want coincides perfectly with what we actually need.
At least a couple of manufacturers have become quite adept at inducing the want with buyers who then construct the need for themselves.
When you have lemons you make lemonade and when you can only make money selling large and hefty vehicles then I think we know where the advertising and promotional dollars are going to go.
Don't you dare take away my stash of Soylent green!
On a serious note, it's interesting to see and live through the lasting affects of cheap instant/easy meals that have plagued our country society in the past half century.
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Let me know how it goes towing my 7500 lb trailer behind your forester.
Most of us find it very easy to point out "flaws" in the choices of others, while remaining blissfully aware of their own excessive purchases and lifestyle. Boats, sports cars, big homes, air conditioned/heated homes, dining out, expensive streaming services, large tvs, pricy smartphones/laptops and other electronics, designer clothes, the list is long and endless. The fact that you're American puts your carbon footprint and lifestyle ahead of the vast, vast majority of men on this planet and definitely the top 99% when considering life to date. I bet you're not living in a mud hut eating beans from a can.
"Let those without sin cast the first stone."
I appreciate this post a lot. I DD a truck and have mixed feelings about it. There was a time where it made the most sense. We don’t tow any more and I could do most of what I need (less conveniently) with a trailer, which then I’d have to store which would be doable, though tricky, here. Truth be told, I’d commute in a go-kart if I could. They are more fun! Big mpg savings if I move out of the truck.
But I’m not usually a faster driver. I go the limit in neighborhood streets or 5, maybe 10 (at most) over, depending on condition on major roads. I don’t stay in the left lane. But there is always a large vehicle tailgating if I’m in a smaller vehicle, and once it goes around, there’s another, too lazy to take the left lane and go around.
And i get it - when I drive a larger vehicle, the space looks different - you can see past and over the smaller one and get right up on them. But when in the small vehicle, the world gets smaller quickly.
People should take a motorcycle to work for a year and experience it from that point of view of being aware of space and speed.
So for now, truck is a DD. Fits in better with the rest of the large trucks on the road. People keep a more reasonable distance behind me and I don’t ride someone else. As much as I’d like to get a sedan again, I don’t see it. May very well end up in an SUV in a few years if it makes sense - I love my wife’s new suv and put some miles on it while she was out of town.
Not sure whether you read my post with any attention to detail, but most of us don't tow 7500 lb trailers.
If you do, then a truck is what you need, not merely want.
If I towed something weighty on the regular, then I'd have a truck and not a hybrid sedan.
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It's you that's lacking thought here; if you want to pull an rv, then yes a truck makes sense, but nobody needs to pull an rv in the first place.
Which is the point. We all make choices, things in our lives which we don't need but yet enjoy and appreciate.
And no you don't need an rv to justify owning a truck, it's just a great use case. Owning a truck is no different than owning a mustang or a corvette which are also well beyond basic transportation and clear into absolute luxury and extravagance when compared to human life throughout history.
Lets face it, the vast majority of cars are more luxurious, spacious, powerful, and wasteful by some metric than needed for basic transportation. Why is the focus only on trucks and suvs?
Even a basic accord is more than needed, a civic would probably do the same job unless you're very tall or very long.
“Trucks are wasteful” unless you need them to pull an RV or a boat (that sit unused most of the year), then it’s “justified”. Yup makes perfect sense to chastise the truck owners that just commute in their trucks or simply enjoy driving one 
We do make choices.
You like having a travel trailer and need a thirsty truck to pull it with, so good for you.
We like couple of week vacations in Europe in summer and the Caribbean in winter.
As you say, it's all a matter of what one wants.
Wife and I want a travel trailer and a truck to tow it with about as much as we want weekly colonoscopies, although I'll admit we've considered it. For us, the math don't math.
You may feel the same about foreign travel and Forester or HAH ownership.
As you say, it's all about what one chooses.
You like having a travel trailer and need a thirsty truck to pull it with, so good for you.
We like couple of week vacations in Europe in summer and the Caribbean in winter.
As you say, it's all a matter of what one wants.
Wife and I want a travel trailer and a truck to tow it with about as much as we want weekly colonoscopies, although I'll admit we've considered it. For us, the math don't math.
You may feel the same about foreign travel and Forester or HAH ownership.
As you say, it's all about what one chooses.
My dogs would love the front bench!
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That's what I'm trying to say. Live and live.
But if you're going to go on a public forum and wish/suggest/demand the removal of "excessive" purchases like large cars and trucks, then lets not be hypocritical; lets look at own life as well and be ready to make sacrifices there too.
I said no such thing.
What I said is that if you tow on a regular basis then a truck makes sense for you.
Would make no sense at all for me, since I can (and have) always rent one if I need to haul something for twenty bucks for the day and I have buddies with pickups I can hit up as needed. I do try to keep the personal favor account in balance with them, though.
As I did write, it's all about choices.
You do you and I do me and it's all good.
based on the experience of people I actually know, a sample size of 3, the Ecoboost 2.7 is a complete disaster to own past 75 K miles with 66% failure rate of the cam chains and guides. A very expensive repair, even after Ford good willed part of the repair. One needed a replacement engine. All that to save about 2 mpg. Not worth it.
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