Yeah, that is a bit confusing if LG really is that bad. I even called LG and spoke to a product specialist and asked what specifically that have done to fix the problems with linear compressors. He couldn't point to one bit of evidence, only to say that they fixed it in 2020. If so, then why another class action lawsuit in 2024?
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I guess the better question is why is LG the top of the list for consumer satisfaction.
Do you know what "another" class action lawsuit is? Best I can tell there is none, do you have a link? All I read is a law firm is seeking class action for 102 consumers, wow.
Have you or anyone did a search on every class action lawsuit for all appliance makers?
How many know GE is currently in a real class action lawsuit for their compressors? I mean, this stuff generates headlines, the internet age. LG so well known for their defective compressors of years past ...
This is a real class action suit this year for GE, I mean who cares? Are there any corporations without them?
Here is one for 2024 for GE refrigerators
https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/files/2024/04/ge-compl.pdf
Here is a 2024 for Whirlpool refrigerators
https://www.classaction.org/news/ce...fridges-plagued-by-wiring-defect-lawsuit-says
Here is another $21,000,000 settlement (current too) for defective Whirlpool refrigerators.
https://openclassactions.com/settlements/whirlpool-freezers-class-action.php#google_vignette
Until all the media hype for LG I never heard of anyone doing a search for class action lawsuits before they bought a consumer electronic. While we are at it, do a search for your TV's, washers, dryers dishwashers too.
We are doomed as a nation using the internet without critical thinking and research and relying on social media and so called news organizations. Dont people know that they are being played for advertising revenue? Clicks generate money.
Here you go, Whirlpool Dishwaters too
https://www.whirlpooldishwashersettlement.com/
Here is one for Whirlpool stoves https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-...t-Glass-Cooktops-Posing-Burn-and-Fire-Hazards
Class action investigation for Thermador Refridgerators
https://chimicles.com/thermador-fridge-class-action-investigation/
Samsung https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nvestigation-complaints-continue/70982873007/
ALl I am saying is there is a lawsuit for every company out there. I do believe LG had a manufacturer design issue for a limited number of years. It's over now. Any lawsuits are going back to that time. Another thing, since when is everyone in here in love with attorneys? *LOL* I usually equally defend them in here as well. *LOL*
PS just having fun here and friendly conversation... if your concerned about lawsuits, first see if you can check consumer satisfaction for brands, then reviews and then when you decide a brand search class action lawsuits for the brand, only if you are concerned
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I'd love to see that list, I refuse to buy anything LG and they still screw me. Had a brand new HVAC system for the house installed, the LG compressor ICP used in the outdoor unit died.
I have a 4 year old Dell that I had the charging limit set to 80% and it already is dying.
Every other manufacturer of household goods combined and I've never had as many failures as the few LG crap products I've owned.
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60 day ago took my mint condition, fully optioned, late model $3500 LG refrigerator to the dump. Nobody wanted to service it. I tired giving it away to independent appliance repair shops instead of taking it to the dump, all the shops laughed at my wanting to give it to them.. they wanted nothing to do with the LG refrigerator.
Of note, LG markets an extended warranty on their official website, they do not do the warranty themselves in any capacity whatsoever. That should be a huge red flag about LG refrigerators.
We replaced the LG with a Bosch refrigerator, the workmanship of the Bosch is miles ahead of the LG. I suspect LG offered a great profit margin to their resellers like Home Dept and Lowes, and that is why retailers continue to sell the linear compressor LG refrigerators. I can't image any other reason a retailer would sell a LG linear compressor refrigerator.
Of note, LG markets an extended warranty on their official website, they do not do the warranty themselves in any capacity whatsoever. That should be a huge red flag about LG refrigerators.
We replaced the LG with a Bosch refrigerator, the workmanship of the Bosch is miles ahead of the LG. I suspect LG offered a great profit margin to their resellers like Home Dept and Lowes, and that is why retailers continue to sell the linear compressor LG refrigerators. I can't image any other reason a retailer would sell a LG linear compressor refrigerator.
Good points about other class actions. Here is a link to one of the more recent against LG:
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit...erators-contain-defective-linear-compressors/
But I don't put as much weight on class actions as my own personal experience. Did you read that I am on my 3rd compressor? That, along with all the other negativity about LG here and elsewhere, is enough for me to avoid them if possible. Each to his own.
Then there is this, which is data gathered from 7 different reapair shops. Granted it is a small sample size, but it agrees with other sites I found about LG. https://prudentreviews.com/reliable-refrigerator-brands/
People should realize that EPA / gov't standards for home appliances have been changing rapidly in the past 10 - 15 years with regard to energy efficiency (and water usage - ie dish and clothes washers). Regardless if you think these rules and regs are warranted or if the gov't should keep their nose out of driving consumer product design, it is having an effect on product complexity, design / construction.
I've read about the thickness of heat exchanger coils being so thin now, and homes being so tight (air-exchange-wise) that outgassing of chemicals (carpets / glues / furnature) is attacking the heat exchangers in fridges and hvac systems causing micro leaks that can't even be seen / tested for. They allow a mildly-combustible form of refridgerant now, it has a different energy / efficiency profile, there has been at least 1 credible report I've seen of a fridge exploding and damaging a kitchen (don't recall the brand).
Washing mashines that don't have agitators any more, don't get clothes as clean as they used to, requiring a second pass. We all know about how gas stoves / ranges were put under the microscope a couple years ago by the gov't.
Regarding LG/Samsung - yes they sell a ton of fridges and that needs to be taken into account when looking at failure rates and lifetime durability. That said, many fridges that were made in the 1950's to the 70's could easily last 30+ years.
The LG/Samsung consumer surveys that I've just searched for that rank them at the top seem to pertain to TV's and monitors BTW. Others (on reddit) point out that many surveys are just for the first year of ownership, don't look at time frames beyond that.
I happen to believe that major home appliances should last 20+ years. My Sears Kenmore washer/drier circa 2000 are doing ok, but I have done the odd repair on them myself. They have no electronics.
A few years ago someone left a Kenmore glass-top stove at the curb near me. Couldn't have been more than a few years old, in immaculate condition. A scrapper cut the cord off but left the stove. I picked it up, took the electronic board out of it, saw that yup, it was the relay contacts for the stove heating elements that had unsoldered themselves from the board. $10 later new relays from Digikey and I've got a nice new working stove.
If you want your fridge to last (or at least give it some help) you need to clean / vacuum / brush out the coils every once in a while. Pet fur and other household dust.
I've read about the thickness of heat exchanger coils being so thin now, and homes being so tight (air-exchange-wise) that outgassing of chemicals (carpets / glues / furnature) is attacking the heat exchangers in fridges and hvac systems causing micro leaks that can't even be seen / tested for. They allow a mildly-combustible form of refridgerant now, it has a different energy / efficiency profile, there has been at least 1 credible report I've seen of a fridge exploding and damaging a kitchen (don't recall the brand).
Washing mashines that don't have agitators any more, don't get clothes as clean as they used to, requiring a second pass. We all know about how gas stoves / ranges were put under the microscope a couple years ago by the gov't.
Regarding LG/Samsung - yes they sell a ton of fridges and that needs to be taken into account when looking at failure rates and lifetime durability. That said, many fridges that were made in the 1950's to the 70's could easily last 30+ years.
The LG/Samsung consumer surveys that I've just searched for that rank them at the top seem to pertain to TV's and monitors BTW. Others (on reddit) point out that many surveys are just for the first year of ownership, don't look at time frames beyond that.
I happen to believe that major home appliances should last 20+ years. My Sears Kenmore washer/drier circa 2000 are doing ok, but I have done the odd repair on them myself. They have no electronics.
A few years ago someone left a Kenmore glass-top stove at the curb near me. Couldn't have been more than a few years old, in immaculate condition. A scrapper cut the cord off but left the stove. I picked it up, took the electronic board out of it, saw that yup, it was the relay contacts for the stove heating elements that had unsoldered themselves from the board. $10 later new relays from Digikey and I've got a nice new working stove.
If you want your fridge to last (or at least give it some help) you need to clean / vacuum / brush out the coils every once in a while. Pet fur and other household dust.
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Im not defending LG. They had an issue for a few years. I assume no different than, lets say as an example a couple year run of a troublesome car engine.
I'll let you know in ten years if our now 1.5 year old LG breaks down. I purchased because I do not think so, I also purchased because nothing came close to the look in the size we wanted, at the killer price we wanted with the features that we a must have and overall amazing quality feel. Samsung was another, GE so so, Whirlpool products were horrible and that is sad, the only American company left and my previous go to brand were Whirlpool/Kenmore in my so far long life but no more.
Anyway, worth any possible risk, if any or their satisfaction ratings would not be so high. Nor so highly rated by consumer reports.
Repeat, I am NOT defending them but I know our refrigerator will last as long as anyone else and it's nicer too.
Ps, the site about a class action lawsuit is NOT a class action lawsuit. This drives me nuts for any product. It is a law firm looking to gather people in order to proceed with one. It's not a lawsuit *LOL* its attorneys looking to start one.
Given the incredibly high volume of LG refrigerators sold the law firm should be able to get enough people to sign up. But it is NOT a lawsuit so means nothing until it is. It's not even worth mentioning that 100 people signed their name up for something.
Top 12 highest rated out of dozens of brands in consumer reports. Side by Side and French Door. No conspiracy here/ LG is not paying Consumer Reports for these ratings and LG will be around a long time. There will always be lawsuits for all brands. If I haven't mentioned it (ha ha), I am not defending them just presenting information. Buy what makes one happy.
Did I mention, top 12 brands in each category out of dozens in the yearly issue. LG took 9 tops places in the French Door Category. (We have a side by side, indoor ice and water was a must have. Ice in the door was a must have on the freezer side as that is the most reliable.
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He will defend TP-Link and LG until the ends of the earth because those are brands he uses.
Says the expert on the things he doesnt own. Yet feels compelled to criticize others who chose what he doesn't have. Its apparent to anyone.
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*LoL* What would you call it then?
I would purchase a Hisense fridge before LG .. or samsung fridge.
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My criticism and concerns regarding TP-Link are well-founded, and that's well within my area of expertise, as you are aware, regardless of your allusions to that not being the case due to my choice to not own their product.
You don't like me because my views are contrary to yours and I've been vocal about it. I'm fine with that, I'm not on this forum to be your friend. I've only had to be vocal about it because you have a history of enthusiastically pushing product you own, regardless of the fact that its reputation and track record may not accurately be reflected in your promotion of said product.
That said, you've dramatically toned-down your advocacy for TP-Link in the last while, so that's some progress I think.
I've never owned an LG fridge, so I've got no personal opinion on them one way or the other. I have watched the exchanges between you and other members on the subject however, and it's very similar to our interaction over TP-Link:
Can I ask what issue you got those Consumer reports charts from? Before my original post, I went through my back issues and didn't see them.Did I mention, top 12 brands in each category out of dozens in the yearly issue. LG took 9 tops places in the French Door Category. (We have a side by side, indoor ice and water was a must have. Ice in the door was a must have on the freezer side as that is the most reliable.
I REALLY tried. I hate CR reports for this. I spent at least 30 minutes going through 5 years of their publications online. They do not make it easy with a search engine by design.
I posted this info a few times in the past and as you are replying just recently, you would think I remembered which issue it was.
If I figure it out I will let you know. dont have much more time today. I REALLY gave it an effort just now. I hate them for this.
Everything is indexed but as you know almost every year they have a short list of reliable brands in many issues. (which I am sure you noticed a fair amount of LG on there)
However trying to find the big list is brutal, drives me nuts.
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No worries, didn't mean for you to have to go back and look. I was just curious if it was recent. I sure did notice all the LG's on there, but their rankings aren't based solely on reliability. They have a separate chart for that in the July 2022 issue, as I'm sure you have seen. LG, Sub-Zero, GE, Kenmore and Whirlpool all get similar rankings when considering only refrigerators.
i found this article on line, but I don't have digital access, so it isn't much use. (BTW, sounds like their digital subscription isn't worth it, based on what you say about search functions).
No, actually the digital version might be worth it. I’m unsure most of my life. I had either delivered to the house or the digital sometimes both.
I have an account now with consumer reports, and you get the archive with the print version. If you want current information other than the print version you have to subscribe to the digital version more or less it’s a way for them to double their subscription income.
I did at one point subscribe to digital before we moved into our housI did at one point subscribe to digital before we moved into our new house, but then I only keep one of the other because I have nothing else to buy
i’m not even sure if I’m making sense myself, but I don’t have the digital version right now yet I have five years of archived print versions. I currently also subscribe to the print version and I don’t have access to the current digital.
I have the print version, never got the digital. It sounded like the search function wasn't very useful with the digital version, and if that's the case, doesn't seem like it is worth it. I didn't know you could get digital without also having print. Anyway, I'm confused now also.No, actually the digital version might be worth it. I’m unsure most of my life. I had either delivered to the house or the digital sometimes both.
I have an account now with consumer reports, and you get the archive with the print version. If you want current information other than the print version you have to subscribe to the digital version more or less it’s a way for them to double their subscription income.
I did at one point subscribe to digital before we moved into our housI did at one point subscribe to digital before we moved into our new house, but then I only keep one of the other because I have nothing else to buy
i’m not even sure if I’m making sense myself, but I don’t have the digital version right now yet I have five years of archived print versions. I currently also subscribe to the print version and I don’t have access to the current digital.
Yes, they don’t make it easy, but if you go to consumer reports online, it becomes more clear
consumerreports.org
You probably have no idea how many people you know make it a point to avoid you.
Thats funny, I thought you would have me blocked like I do you. I just couldnt resist "peaking in" to see what intellectual information you contributed to the thread.
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