Lets talk about new vehicles

Zee09 said:
Like VW today...
It used to be a group of enthusiast. Hard core...
Now it seems they don't know the heritage but only that the Jetta was the least expensive car to get. A mass consumer ride.
I like them but here the VW enthusiast are gone.
I do like Porsche here because nobody cares... nobody bothers you. But by a Corvette and the crowds swarm...
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I think another part of it is no waiting, other than the pandemic. I would see people at work say well I've got to get a new car my lease is up and somehow the new car is cheaper than the last yet higher in the model line. I never wanted to know the details because frankly I found it far fetched. But since 2020, I have heard the same people say they got crushed. There are going to be times in life, when, imho, one cannot get what one wants. Might even have to downgrade, or hold on to what one has.

When BMW hit the malaise era with pinkie light steering (2014-2018), seems like many turned the radio up and accepted that it was better. Why do that? There will always be things that are timeless, such as a 1938 guitar or a watch, etc.

btw a GTI was a car I always wanted to have since I was 12 y.o. Never happened, likely never will. But I got to drive one once on a business trip in 2015, and it was a blast (DSG though not a stick).

:)
 
Zee09 said:
If I was in the market for a car the Accord would work because it is actually cheap these days..Really.
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I just looked, they are cheap. I’m shocked. No wonder I have already been seeing them.

Between the price point and competitors abandonment of sedans they are going to clean up on those.
 
KCJeep said:
I just looked, they are cheap. I’m shocked. No wonder I have already been seeing them.

Between the price point and competitors abandonment of sedans they are going to clean up on those.
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Yup and they are discounting them too. I had a lady friend that freaked out over my 2013 Sport because she grew up with Accords.
If I had a Ferrari it would be a let down. Brand and model loyalty.
 
Zee09 said:
The back gives off a Maserati look. That color is my Ford Truck color. Had several in that color. Always looks good.
I looked into a crown too but it was too early. Not many around then.
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I was really attracted to the styling and the color of the car overall, I didn’t find anything about it that put me off. Well, I say that, but the 0W8 sticker under the hood was still a little off putting. I knew going in to look at it that they were going to be shipped with 0W8, but that’s not going to scare me off of it if my Wife ends up picking one of these.
The interior was nice as well, all of the controls were designed in a way to be easily accessible, the seats were comfortable,..I was just impressed with the whole thing.
I wish that we had a VW dealer close by, I really love the Arteon and my Wife likes the look of them as well. Unfortunately, the closest VW dealerships are 55 miles to the east and the other is about the same to the west. I like to have a servicing dealer a little closer for any warranty issues that may pop up initially.
There’s a VW dealer 85 miles away in Fayetteville that has one loaded exactly like she would want, it’s a beautiful car.

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HemiBenny said:
I was really attracted to the styling and the color of the car overall, I didn’t find anything about it that put me off. Well, I say that, but the 0W8 sticker under the hood was still a little off putting. I knew going in to look at it that they were going to be shipped with 0W8, but that’s not going to scare me off of it if my Wife ends up picking one of these.
The interior was nice as well, all of the controls were designed in a way to be easily accessible, the seats were comfortable,..I was just impressed with the whole thing.
I wish that we had a VW dealer close by, I really love the Arteon and my Wife likes the look of them as well. Unfortunately, the closest VW dealerships are 55 miles to the east and the other is about the same to the west. I like to have a servicing dealer a little closer for any warranty issues that may pop up initially.
There’s a VW dealer 85 miles away in Fayetteville that has one loaded exactly like she would want, it’s a beautiful car.

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My dealer is 35 to 40 miles away too but I'm not real close to many dealers here. But with a 4/50k year bumper to bumper warranty and 30k maintenance I am not too worried but I get it.
Even Good Sam and AAA will tow much further with a good plan.
On the Crown by the time you have to pay for service the 0w-8 will probably be easier to get.
 
HemiBenny said:
I was really attracted to the styling and the color of the car overall, I didn’t find anything about it that put me off. Well, I say that, but the 0W8 sticker under the hood was still a little off putting. I knew going in to look at it that they were going to be shipped with 0W8, but that’s not going to scare me off of it if my Wife ends up picking one of these.
The interior was nice as well, all of the controls were designed in a way to be easily accessible, the seats were comfortable,..I was just impressed with the whole thing.
I wish that we had a VW dealer close by, I really love the Arteon and my Wife likes the look of them as well. Unfortunately, the closest VW dealerships are 55 miles to the east and the other is about the same to the west. I like to have a servicing dealer a little closer for any warranty issues that may pop up initially.
There’s a VW dealer 85 miles away in Fayetteville that has one loaded exactly like she would want, it’s a beautiful car.

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That's a pretty car.
 
HemiBenny said:
I was really attracted to the styling and the color of the car overall, I didn’t find anything about it that put me off. Well, I say that, but the 0W8 sticker under the hood was still a little off putting. I knew going in to look at it that they were going to be shipped with 0W8, but that’s not going to scare me off of it if my Wife ends up picking one of these.
The interior was nice as well, all of the controls were designed in a way to be easily accessible, the seats were comfortable,..I was just impressed with the whole thing.
I wish that we had a VW dealer close by, I really love the Arteon and my Wife likes the look of them as well. Unfortunately, the closest VW dealerships are 55 miles to the east and the other is about the same to the west. I like to have a servicing dealer a little closer for any warranty issues that may pop up initially.
There’s a VW dealer 85 miles away in Fayetteville that has one loaded exactly like she would want, it’s a beautiful car.

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I definitely get wanting easy dealer access, in fact that’s what eventually turned me away from Alfa Romeo, but in my experience warranty service needs on a new VW will be minimal. Arteon is an exceptional car, the Accord would just be another bleeting sheep by comparison, not that there’s anything wrong with that,different strokes for different folks.
 
KCJeep said:
I definitely get wanting easy dealer access, in fact that’s what eventually turned me away from Alfa Romeo, but in my experience warranty service needs on a new VW will be minimal. Arteon is an exceptional car, the Accord would just be another bleeting sheep by comparison, not that there’s anything wrong with that,different strokes for different folks.
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You're probably right about the VW needing minimal service needs for a warranty claim, but you never know. It's funny that you mentioned Alfa Romeo, my wife really took a liking to the Alfa Romeo Giulia that we saw at the dealership in Benton, Ar. (~80 miles away) They're heavily discounted as nobody is buying them, but like you, that distance to an Alfa dealer really turned me off. If it wasn't for worrying about having warranty work performed and the logistics of getting it there, it wouldn't matter at all.
Fortunately, she and I both really like the Crown and the dealer is about 4 miles from my house. I also happen to know a lot of the guys at the dealership, so that helps a little. We haven't made a decision since we have some time, but the Toyota Crown is at the top of a short list right now. With all of that said, you know how women are, it all may change tomorrow. :unsure: ;)
 
CKN said:
That's a pretty car.
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It is! I simply couldn't find anything about it that I didn't like. Well, the 0W8 that they're filling the 2.5l with bothers me a little, but that's not a deal killer. :sneaky:
If she decided that she wanted one today, I would get it for her, but ultimately She has to decide since it will be her daily driver.

Edit- I see that you were talking about the Arteon now. Yes, it is a pretty car. We may still go have a look even though it's a pretty good drive to the dealer. It's all up to my Wife in the end. Happy Wife, happy life. ;)
 
HemiBenny said:
You're probably right about the VW needing minimal service needs for a warranty claim, but you never know. It's funny that you mentioned Alfa Romeo, my wife really took a liking to the Alfa Romeo Giulia that we saw at the dealership in Benton, Ar. (~80 miles away) They're heavily discounted as nobody is buying them, but like you, that distance to an Alfa dealer really turned me off. If it wasn't for worrying about having warranty work performed and the logistics of getting it there, it wouldn't matter at all.
Fortunately, she and I both really like the Crown and the dealer is about 4 miles from my house. I also happen to know a lot of the guys at the dealership, so that helps a little. We haven't made a decision since we have some time, but the Toyota Crown is at the top of a short list right now. With all of that said, you know how women are, it all may change tomorrow. :unsure: ;)
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Alfa ownership is more viable on the coasts IMO, totally different when you have 5 reasonably close as opposed to being at the mercy of 1 in a 200 mile radius.

At least that’s where I landed.
 
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