Lets talk about new vehicles

Stude may like this ...
Also this doesn't have the window issue! Only 15K O-riginal smiles!

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Zee09 said:
They had one like it here
Took forever to sell though
I like it.
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I reminds me of the rides you went on at the fairgrounds in the 50's and 60's - the rocket cars!

The studebaker flathead six is not powerful like the chrysler flatty - but this has the overdrive T handle under the dash overdrive so you could yank that and keep up with slower highway traffic if need be.

Some after '51 had the Stude V8 which was a good early v8 OHV engine similar to the cadillac design.

But there is certain undeniable charm to the flathead straight six and 3 on tree (Borg-warner T86E)

It could probably be had for 15K. Classic car prices are on the way up.
 
@KCJeep

I see tons of old Passats on the road here. I need to look up the styles. I suspect these are early 2000??

Not boxy and slim and trim and low to the ground. They are everywhere like new Jettas.....
Must be reliable...
I don't see late models though.
 
The very newest ones stick out very sharp (and are not real common) but VW sold basically the same car with multiple updates from 2012 through 2022 so they are plentiful. Lots of older diesels running around too.

IMO the 2012 plus versions were quite reliable although also "Americanized". Previous generations were true German cars and really felt like it, however that was far enough back VW was still plagued by some reliability issues. Very solid cars though, I still see plenty of 2006 Passats and the like, and usually (like all German makes) they still look real good despite the age.

There's a I don't know what year (maybe 98?) diesel Jetta on campus with 300k on it and it still looks very good despite it's age. Typical but it's owned by a VW guy who knows how to maintain it as well as work on it as need be.
 
KCJeep said:
The very newest ones stick out very sharp (and are not real common) but VW sold basically the same car with multiple updates from 2012 through 2022 so they are plentiful. Lots of older diesels running around too.

IMO the 2012 plus versions were quite reliable although also "Americanized". Previous generations were true German cars and really felt like it, however that was far enough back VW was still plagued by some reliability issues. Very solid cars though, I still see plenty of 2006 Passats and the like, and usually (like all German makes) they still look real good despite the age.

There's a I don't know what year (maybe 98?) diesel Jetta on campus with 300k on it and it still looks very good despite it's age. Typical but it's owned by a VW guy who knows how to maintain it as well as work on it as need be.
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We have like 2 dealers in a 100 mile
radius and VW is taking over the roads here...weird. I see them everywhere...
They sort of snuck up on me..
 
KCJeep said:
Cool! Much more refined than your little Mitsubishis I should think.

There is one at work I keep eyeballing lol. White but has horrid black wheels gag.
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Yup...the black wheels always look dirty...
 
@KCJeep
I didn't do my homework so excuse me... Last year I fitted a Mitsui with 90k Hankook tires. Very stiff.

I am thinking VW is using harder durometer tires for the increase in mpg. My VW uses Romanian Contis
at 32 psi cold per VW specs they are rather stiff. Need to study up on it.
Thoughts?
 
Never thought of it before. You sure you're not just confusing the Euro firmer ride?

My Passat had Conti Pro Contacts I didn't notice they were particularly hard but they probably were it was clear I was going to get 70k out of them.

Jetta has cheap OEM Falken honestly they feel squishy to me but again could be suspension partly Jetta is fully Americanized the Arteon is truly German.
 
KCJeep said:
Never thought of it before. You sure you're not just confusing the Euro firmer ride?

My Passat had Conti Pro Contacts I didn't notice they were particularly hard but they probably were it was clear I was going to get 70k out of them.

Jetta has cheap OEM Falken honestly they feel squishy to me but again could be suspension partly Jetta is fully Americanized the Arteon is truly German.
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No because I have several ride settings and a custom option where I keep the power up but weaken the suspension to float like an old Buick and at 32 psi those tires are hard as a rock..
 
Zee09 said:
@KCJeep
I didn't do my homework so excuse me... Last year I fitted a Mitsui with 90k Hankook tires. Very stiff.

I am thinking VW is using harder durometer tires for the increase in mpg. My VW uses Romanian Contis
at 32 psi cold per VW specs they are rather stiff. Need to study up on it.
Thoughts?
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The Hankooks we had rode really well and handled great BUT........

I bit the bullet and replaced (2) sets of Hankook tires off (2) good cars due to poor quality issues
in the last 2-3 years.
Both sets had lots of miles left to go but I could not have the wife and my grandkids driving at
highway speeds with all kind of bubbles and defects that kept showing up all over the sidewalls.
One set actually had pieces of rubber as large as 1" to 2" dropping out of the treads.... Never seen
that on any brand tire before.

I had bought one of the sets new myself before I knew any better and the second set were new and came
on a car we bought from a dealership.

After the second set showed the same issues _ I decided I can't trust them.
 
KCJeep said:
Tha'

That's cool! Yeah I don't have that. :rolleyes:

Did a search yesterday 22 Arteons are showing up! I see what I think is a new color, at least I don't remember it. It's called Moonstone, looks fantastic on the Arteon. Might be Alfa's undoing! :ROFLMAO:
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I am at McDonald's now in mine.
Guy brings out my food and I say...
Good morning sir and have a great day and he says...yeah okay😂😂😂😳

The royal blow off... If you get that 22 Arteon you know I will have to block you don't you?😜😜😜😜
 
I’d try the camry and accord hybrids. Your requirements are conflicting - not in a car cubicle, but car is ok.

I’d shop vw too…
 
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