Law Enforcement - What Are Your Pet Peeves?

[walterjay]

Several years ago I got pulled over in Pennsylvania for going over the speed limit. The cop had a rotten pisd off attitude. I don't know what his problem was but he probably shouldn't have been working that day. I expect to be treated with the same respect that I showed him.

The Maryland State Police and the local Sheriff deputies here all all great. Stellar folks. Passed by the Sheriff in town a couple weeks ago and thanked him for a great job.

 

[KrisZ]

Anybody interested in all the shenanigans police is capable of and the system that protects them, search YouTube for The Civil Rights Lawyer.

You will be amazed what they can do and still not be fired, or just get paid leave. They hardly ever get successfully sued, or have their police license taken away. Meaning, even if they do get fired from one county, they will get hired in another.

Like this police captain, who conspired against a CEO of an electric company. Got her fired and ruined her reputation. His punishment, got fired and collects over 70k/year of his pension for the rest of his life.

 

[ctechbob]

And no one has challenged that in court ? That's a clear violation of the 1st amendment.

Dunno, not my circus, not my monkeys.

 

[ctechbob]

Do you these ordinances exist because you're in college town?

University of Georgia for you BITOGer's

Nope, we're the next county over.

 

[dishdude]

Anybody interested in all the shenanigans police is capable of and the system that protects them, search YouTube for The Civil Rights Lawyer.

I subscribe to his channel, most of the videos he posts are infuriating.

 

[Brons2]

I will throw this in. I'm not an officer. My peeve is police that do not do their job. I live in an area with the worst drivers in the state.. people run red lights. Ride ATVs down the street and even the fwy right past a police officer and that officer does not do anything about it.

In my area it's the golf carts. Entitled people driving their golf carts all over the place. Even after there was a collision with a pre-teen driving a golf cart being hit by a car resulting in injuries. That sure lit up a firestorm on the neighborhood Facebook group though.

Today was a new one though. Guy actually crossed the nearby state highway heading to HEB (grocery store for the uninitiated). That's the first time I've seen that, and I'm sure he was far below the speed limit in the area. At least he appeared to be riding on the shoulder.

 

[bunnspecial]

Cops talk to each other on cell phones because it's encrypted, eg not picked up on scanners, and presumably also not subject to FOIA/ discovery/ paperwork retention rules. I'd let them have this "gimme."

My job is in no way related to law enforcement, but as a public employee a decent chunk of my work is subject to my state's FOIA laws(subject of course to redacting information that falls under other laws-FERPA is the big one at my work)

I have been cautioned-and have seen court cases to back this up(but don't have the citation at hand) that my personal devices are subject to FOIA if used for work related purposes.

 

[rstcso]

In my area it's the golf carts. Entitled people driving their golf carts all over the place. Even after there was a collision with a pre-teen driving a golf cart being hit by a car resulting in injuries. That sure lit up a firestorm on the neighborhood Facebook group though.

Today was a new one though. Guy actually crossed the nearby state highway heading to HEB (grocery store for the uninitiated). That's the first time I've seen that, and I'm sure he was far below the speed limit in the area. At least he appeared to be riding on the shoulder.

Needs to get a farm tractor. No age or speed limit in Texas (or didn't use to be and I didn't look up current codes).

 

[SOUNDMAN5000]

I can't remember any police officer, deputy, or state trooper that didn't have a pet peeve. If they stopped someone for their pet peeve, they were getting a citation.

Mine - Children not being safely secured appropriately in a moving vehicle. You were getting a citation!

Note: Texas had, and may still have, a few exceptions to this rule. I've been out of the department for over 20 years, but it used to be persons could ride in the open bed of a pickup driven at or under 30mph. I once saw someone who put a big tarp in the bed of their pickup, filled it with water, then took their kids for a spin in their neighborhood, sloshing along. Was is smart? I certainly didn't think so. ! Was it against the law? Not at the time, and still may not be.

What are or were your pet peeves?

I have never understood people or even dogs riding in the back of a truck.
However, it hit me personally early in life. Back in the 70's the first death of a school friend ( my own age death of someone I knew as a kid ) I experience in 4th grade in my neighborhood as my buddy was in the bed of a truck and the truck was hit at an intersection, he was thrown and hit a telephone pole 20' up and killed.

Every time we would ride past that telephone pole on our bikes it would hit home as you could still "see it" for what seemed like a year or better...

As a kid that was traumatic ( still is )...

 

[rstcso]

I have never understood people or even dogs riding in the back of a truck.
However, it hit me personally early in life. Back in the 70's the first death of a school friend ( my own age death of someone I knew as a kid ) I experience in 4th grade in my neighborhood as my buddy was in the bed of a truck and the truck was hit at an intersection, he was thrown and hit a telephone pole 20' up and killed.

Every time we would ride past that telephone pole on our bikes it would hit home as you could still "see it" for what seemed like a year or better...

As a kid that was traumatic ( still is )...

I'm sorry for your loss. It's tough losing someone like that.

I believe the exceptions exist(ed?) due to families only having a pickup as their source of transportation. Years ago, almost all pickups were "regular cab". Allowing the exception doesn't lessen the risk, but didn't penalize those only having a pickup.

 

[John105]

Several years ago I got pulled over in Pennsylvania for going over the speed limit. The cop had a rotten pisd off attitude. I don't know what his problem was but he probably shouldn't have been working that day. I expect to be treated with the same respect that I showed him.

The Maryland State Police and the local Sheriff deputies here all all great. Stellar folks. Passed by the Sheriff in town a couple weeks ago and thanked him for a great job.

I have personally been pulled over by state troopers in a bunch of states, but oddly, never in PA. I do know one PA trooper personally, and he cannot wait to retire.

Surprisingly, NJ let me go on what would have been a very serious and life altering offense (this was 2005 so a different time).

In my experience and this really is 1990-2005, NYS was the absolute worst. I had a trooper back then in my grad school program and he was always telling stories of abusing motorists. Everyone else thought it was funny, I was cringing when I heard all these tales.

Every other state they were courteous: VT, MA, NJ, MD, VA, SC. I forgot, CT was bad. And based on YouTube, nothing has changed.

Where I live, our town has a disproportionate amount of hockey players, and cops. The cops are all nice. The hockey players' parents, for the most part

 

[pbm]

I am pro-police but I don't like when police vehicles are camouflaged for revenue purposes (ticket writing).
Shouldn't police vehicles be easily recognizable to the public who may need them?

 

[Oey12]

we have free speech, try to ticket me for cursing a cop, and I will sue. If the cop is that thin skinned then I suggest a different occupation.'

Rod

If you want respect you treat people with respect. Cursing at a cop is disrespectful and breaks down society’s civility/morality. Hence why America has become what’s it become…

Sue over a ticket? Honestly that’s being thinned skinned.

I don’t wanna hear about professionalism. Someone that is cursing, yelling, putting their hands up, or fighting a police officer should absolutely EXPECT the officer to treat them the same way in kind PERIOD. But again things have gone soft and most people can’t handle be ridiculed for being an A$$#%&@.

 

[Revving2Redline]

Son in law is State Trooper in Georgia, I dont think he has anything that rattles him as him and my daughter were both Marines. Shes staying in because she loves her job and is a good recruiter, he got out for better pay. I feel like police have been mistreated especially after 2009, i try to wave and do go things when i see them, its a tough gig.

 

[KrisZ]

If you want respect you treat people with respect. Cursing at a cop is disrespectful and breaks down society’s civility/morality. Hence why America has become what’s it become…

Sue over a ticket? Honestly that’s being thinned skinned.

I don’t wanna hear about professionalism. Someone that is cursing, yelling, putting their hands up, or fighting a police officer should absolutely EXPECT the officer to treat them the same way in kind PERIOD. But again things have gone soft and most people can’t handle be ridiculed for being an A$$#%&@.

It’s quite interesting that on one hand you call people that sue over a ticket “thin skinned” yet retaliation for cussing is not thin skinned behavior?

 

[burbguy82]

I think it is unreasonable for some to have opinions on such things without ever having been in the seat themselves.

Generally, I support the police, they have a really hard job, dont get paid much for the duty, and on a daily basis put their lies on the line to enforce the law. And above all that, one mistake in a heated situation, can put an officer in huge legal peril, from a jury of folks who have never been on the muzzle end.

 

[Oey12]

It’s quite interesting that on one hand you call people that sue over a ticket “thin skinned” yet retaliation for cussing is not thin skinned behavior?

Hypothetically, because I would never do any of the the following to anyone but for the sake of this conversation…

If I were to curse at your mother?

Your wife?

Your daughter?

Your sister?

Your Aunt?

Your 11 year old son?

Your reaction would be considered “retaliation”? No, because if I did any of the above I would have what’s coming to me.

Just because we can “curse” at police officers doesn’t mean we should. There are many things that we can do in life that we simply SHOULD NOT do because it’s not right.

And yes to sue a cop over a legally issued summons is thin skinned. There are various methods to take recourse against officers without CURSING and lawsuits.

And honestly many wonder why cops don’t want to enforce laws (…one word fear of having their life’s destroyed by nonsensical lawsuits and allegations). Corrupt cops are much easily found these days due to technology. Corruption is no different among police work than other professions.

 

[KrisZ]

Hypothetically, because I would never do any of the the following to anyone but for the sake of this conversation…

If I were to curse at your mother?

Your wife?

Your daughter?

Your sister?

Your Aunt?

Your 11 year old son?

Your reaction would be considered “retaliation”? No, because if I did any of the above I would have what’s coming to me.

Just because we can “curse” at police officers doesn’t mean we should. There are many things that we can do in life that we simply SHOULD NOT do because it’s not right.

And yes to sue a cop over a legally issued summons is thin skinned. There are various methods to take recourse against officers without CURSING and lawsuits.

And honestly many wonder why cops don’t want to enforce laws (…one word fear of having their life’s destroyed by nonsensical lawsuits and allegations). Corrupt cops are much easily found these days due to technology. Corruption is no different among police work than other professions.

You’re clearly missing the point here. And by the way, I would not have any justification for getting physical over you cursing out all of my family. There is no law that supports it. Doesn’t matter if you “had it coming” or not, you would be able to clean me out and put out to dry very easily in the eyes of the law.

A police officer, acting in his/her official capacity has an immunity, so they can retaliate with physical force or use his/her power and authority to put you in jail and cause you all sorts of legal troubles. All of which is very hard to prove against an officer. That’s a proven fact, not sure where you’re getting the idea from that police officers open themselves up to lawsuits when performing their official duties. They don’t because they are granted immunity. It’s qualified immunity, but still extremely hard to pursue.

It’s because of this extra authority over an ordinary citizen, that a police officer should also have a much higher standard of conduct. It cannot be compared with normal persons behavior.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Hypothetically, because I would never do any of the the following to anyone but for the sake of this conversation…

If I were to curse at your mother?

Your wife?

Your daughter?

Your sister?

Your Aunt?

Your 11 year old son?

Your reaction would be considered “retaliation”? No, because if I did any of the above I would have what’s coming to me.

Just because we can “curse” at police officers doesn’t mean we should. There are many things that we can do in life that we simply SHOULD NOT do because it’s not right.

And yes to sue a cop over a legally issued summons is thin skinned. There are various methods to take recourse against officers without CURSING and lawsuits.

And honestly many wonder why cops don’t want to enforce laws (…one word fear of having their life’s destroyed by nonsensical lawsuits and allegations). Corrupt cops are much easily found these days due to technology. Corruption is no different among police work than other professions.

Our founders, who were the smartest humans to walk on this earth, or possibly some version of angels sent by a greater power to set us straight, put that right first for a reason. So disagreeing with it is to directly disagree with them.

Look up City of Houston v. Hill (1987) ruling, if you want to be educated. It should really be required reading for all law enforcement.

Your examples are a complete false analogy, because none of those people are public officials. I am not condoning using foul language at ANYONE - but the entire purpose of the 1st amendment is EXACTLY the reason - its to protect speech we don't like, not just that which we do agree with.

Of course, most here will agree with you. Which is why our republic is in such a shaky state.

 

[KrisZ]

Constitutional rights, what’s that? Respect my authorita, that’s the name of the game.