Lake Speed Jr video - Ignore Factory oil specifications!

[rijndael]

Regarding "click bait" titles. Clicks & views generate revenue. You have to get your content at the top of search results if you want channel growth and views. Even better, make the YT main page.

Everyone here seems to what the content and depth of an industry whitepaper. Statistically significant sample sizes, raw data access, etc. That's too narrow of an audience, expensive to produce, boring to most, and doesn't generate the revenue he is after.

 

[4WD]

Some of the same people raging at LSJr here are the same folks who are posting "should I use 0w40/15w50/10W60 in my 2020 Nissan Versa because I drive 5 mph over the speed limit on the freeway".

Maybe his videos are too long for some; I rather perform long form content and I would think most people that are still on a forum in the year 2025 don't just want 10 second shorts. Sure, he generalizes a bit and dumbs down some topics to speak to a wider audience, but other than a handful of true subject matter experts here, he can educate a great many people. I mean look at the alternatives - the young cowboy guy who is an Amsoil distributor, Project Farm, the guy that boils oil in coffee pots, etc etc etc. I'd say LSJr is one of the better voices on YT and I appreciate listening to him.

I’m what I call a “tile surfer” - see these internet “tiles” and decide if I think they are informative - or not. Same way I treat a whole page of “news” stories - if I don’t think it is new news - I move to the next …
Hardly alone with this method …

 

[Nessism1]

The summary of this video, which I am deriving from members here, is “Duh.” He is unwatchable to me.

Don’t we already know this?

Honestly, I do not get the Fan-boyism from members here saying it was “exciting” and we should “listen to him.” He didn’t say anything we don’t already know.

I’m with you @Pablo about this click bait clown. The only thing surprising here is the cult following he seems to have, even right here on BITOG. Baffling to me.

I think this is an excellent video. The title is bad, though, and calling it click bait is fair.

Guys on this forum may already know the information, but that doesn't mean that this is a bad video. He's not targeting BISOG for his videos like this.

 

[JimPghPA]

The summary of this video, which I am deriving from members here, is “Duh.” He is unwatchable to me.

Don’t we already know this?

Honestly, I do not get the Fan-boyism from members here saying it was “exciting” and we should “listen to him.” He didn’t say anything we don’t already know.

I’m with you @Pablo about this click bait clown. The only thing surprising here is the cult following he seems to have, even right here on BITOG. Baffling to me.

When one conveys information, if they include info the person listing to already knows then they insult that person's intelangence. If they begin talking about a subject at a level that requires a background of knoledge that the person listening does not have they loose the attention of that listener because the listener can't follow what they are talking about. Conveying information is not a one size fits all situation.

LSJ conveys accurate info. For some it's redundant and boaring because they knew this. For some it's educational because they had enough of an understanding to follow what he was talking about and learned a few things they did not know. For some it's noise they can not follow because they don't have enough background.

All in all he does a good job of presenting info.

Those who already knew this info have not put out the effort to teach those who did not know or forgot the info, like he did.

Also, some of his YT videos with Total Seal teach detailed info about piston-rings and clearances, bore finish and materials and a few other things. Again, it's about what level is, insulting, educational, or above the listeners head. It's never one size fits All.

He's certainly an entire level above Scotty click-bate.

I have learned a fue things from LSJ, and will continue to watch him.

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BTW, this recent video got me thinking about what I put my Honda K24W in my CR-V through last week when I let it idle for a total of 20 hours spread out over 5 times of about 4 hours each, to make the high output alternator power my 2200 W 4400 W peak high reliabality very clean sine wave Meanwell brand 12 V DC to 120 AC inverter, during a 2.5 day power-outage. Certainly a bit more load on the engine than it normally sees at idle. Makes me glad I have PUP 0W - 20 in it, instead of a lesser 0W - 20.

 

[Kira]

what are you talking about?

Companies making inferior products and selling them without testing (relying on us to be the testers)....then abandoning said shabby products expecting us to just buy another.

It's not that complicated.

 

[gfh77665]

I don't want to bash LSJ or his content, but to be fair he does sell clickbait. He is not anywhere near as bad as the Scotty the clickbait master though. I think LSJ has some good content, but the application and conclusion of his content is what I don't trust. LSJ will cherry pick one data point and run off to the end of the earth while ignoring several other equally important factors. Cherry picking turns me off fast.

IMO, the very best TY info comes from "Engineering Explained". He has a wider scope of automotive subjects than just oil, but he leans into lubrication significantly. Here is an example.

 

[HemiBenny]

I'm sure this guy (Lake Speed Jr) is more intelligent than I am regarding many things. With that said, I watched one of his videos, and he poured a new quart of oil into the engine to flush the oil pan after draining the used oil out. I checked out and never went back.

 

[TiGeo]

A whole lot of jealous folks here that wish they could harness their keyboard knowledge posted here daily for money like LSJR does on YT but it's easier to trash a genuine motoroil "nerd" putting out some decent content that is at a level most normal people can synthesize. Monetizing on YT is hard and without catchy titles to get folks to watch, there is no point. See my channel as an example...I'll be lucky doing BITOG-approved videos that are short/basic to ever see a dollar for all my time spent trying to help folks out with info sharing...I am stuck in a forever limbo of watch hours that do slowly go up over time os maybe one of these days I'll see that $20/mos check....but I diagress. It's just an easy way to share things across multiple platforms for me.

The issue at hand is one of poor design, not "CAFE thin oils". One only needs to look at the majority of vehicles sold today/on the road in the U.S. today running on 20 grade without a hitch. The 40 grade switch here is a bandaid to cover up a poor design. Do we actually know if the 40 grade from the factory would have changed this issue? Answer = no.

 

[DaveInIreland]

He's got a point, but it merely re-inforces my own view, for what it's worth.
I've never taken the modern recommendations for oil viscosity (and especially change intervals) as gospel.
When I realised that such figures were based on what good they did to some Scrabble board in the accounting departments and not my own welfare, I declined to follow them.
My own cars / vans / bikes have always had oil changes and viscosities that suited me and the driving conditions. Used to be the charts in the owner handbook could be relied upon as a starting point or a guide, but needn't be followed slavishly.

 

[DaveInIreland]

Companies making inferior products and selling them without testing (relying on us to be the testers)....then abandoning said shabby products expecting us to just buy another.

It's not that complicated.

Have you ever owned a British motorcycle?

 

[JimPghPA]

When someone like LSJ teaches something I already know, I just rember that anyone writing a book or making a video, can't know the background of the knoledge of the listener, and wait for the sections that actually teach me something.

 

[rijndael]

For some it's redundant and boaring because they knew this. For some it's educational because they had enough of an understanding to follow what he was talking about and learned a few things they did not know. For some it's noise they can not follow because they don't have enough background.

And for others, they just want to point out where he's wrong if you look at one corner case, one specific instance, as if he was making absolute statements. Hint ... he's not.

 

[JAG]

Good video. He provides better information than the majority of people here do, in my opinion. Yet, he gets criticized in a substantial percentage of posts in threads about his videos.

My favorite parts, even though I already knew it: rougher surface finish tends to require higher viscosity, getting debris out of very low mileage engines is beneficial, high load, low RPM, and low viscosity puts wear regime on Stribeck curve toward thin film thickness region. Hersey number = viscosity x speed / load

 

[BobsArmory]

Good video. He provides better information than the majority of people here do, in my opinion. Yet, he gets criticized in a substantial percentage of posts in threads about his videos.

I think a lot of people that hate on him here are afraid that he might dethrone their status on on BITOG. Flame suit activated!

 

[BobsArmory]

I also remember not to long ago some of these veteran members body shaming his lip for no other reason than to try to discredit his knowledge base so they could feel better about themselves. Second flame suit activated!

 

[buster]

I watched it in full. There is nothing very controversial in here and the information is generally good. A lot of people should listen to him here.

He basically just says that under higher loads and lower rpm, a thicker oil may protect the bottom end better, depending on engine specifics. He also points out that you can run thicker oils in engines without damage, but points out that it may or may not translate to less wear. He also talks about temperature’s outsized effect on viscosity to mitigate the concerns of the “follow the spec” people.

Overall pretty good, sound stuff.

As I said before significantly better than FordBossMe, RATBLOG, Scotty, Project Farmer, Eben etc. I'll take LSJ's videos any day of the week over the other clowns.

He's also provided shear stability #'s for many Mobil 1 grades, using HPL's lab no less, and even got the inside scoop on VRP. Not sure why so many don't like him.

 

[cammyfive79]

I also remember not to long ago some of these veteran members body shaming his lip for no other reason than to try to discredit his knowledge base so they could feel better about themselves. Second flame suit activated!

Can you imagine if you had to link a current headshot of yourself here as your profile pic...lol. I can only imagine the motley crew of oil nerds we would see.

 

[mitsuman47]

Can you imagine if you had to link a current headshot of yourself here as your profile pic...lol. I can only imagine the motley crew of oil nerds we would see.

I say we petition for this to be implemented.

 

[rijndael]

Not sure why so many don't like him.

A lot of the grief he gets remind me of something in my day job.

I'm in industry conferences quite a bit. We have "tech talks" with the people who design & build expensive hardware and the customers who use them. In these talks, going over design and architecture details, you always get people who ask questions about their unique circumstances with minimal details, it's clearly a question trap. They often have a long running (9 months or so) support case, with many smart developers involved and loads of details. And now they try to solve this with 500 other (unrelated) people in the room, a broader agenda applying to everyone, with a time limit. In reality, they're a "look how smart I am" type of question. The clueful folks in the room know what it really is.

 

[userfriendly]

This video reinforces what I’ve been telling the thinnies for over 20 years.
Thin around and find out.