Lake Speed jr. Thick vs. Thin video.

Come on 20-50. We know that’s not good for winter. But if I had an oil burning civic, and summer time temps over 100 and lows in the 70s. 20/50 would be fine. I know I had many jap cars where the owners manual stated 15/40 if you lived in the UAE. Otherwise select your favorite flavor. With 0/20 for most mpg
Mine only uses about a half a quart of oil every 10,000 miles with 0w20 so it’s got a healthy engine. I can see how some people with older oil burning Civics would consider a thicker oil but I certainly don’t feel the need here.
 
Come on 20-50. We know that’s not good for winter. But if I had an oil burning civic, and summer time temps over 100 and lows in the 70s. 20/50 would be fine.
SAE J300 shows the 20W CCS spec at -15C (5F). Even being conservative from that, a 20W could be used down to 0C (32F) without worry.
 
Mine only uses about a half a quart of oil every 10,000 miles with 0w20 so it’s got a healthy engine. I can see how some people with older oil burning Civics would consider a thicker oil but I certainly don’t feel the need here.
I run 0/40 in everything. Honda Toyota whatever. 0/20 is water. Wait till your civic gets over 100k. She’ll start using more oil, especially if you get into VTEC
 
Mine only uses about a half a quart of oil every 10,000 miles with 0w20 so it’s got a healthy engine. I can see how some people with older oil burning Civics would consider a thicker oil but I certainly don’t feel the need here.
Has the Civic always consumed 1/2qt per 10k? That's actually really good. Just for fun maybe run Restore & Protect in it?
 
Has the Civic always consumed 1/2qt per 10k? That's actually really good. Just for fun maybe run Restore & Protect in it?
As long as I have had it (bought it at 80,000 miles) it has consumed this much oil. And funny you should mention R&P because I’m planning a cross border trip to Western NY state this week and plan on getting a jug of it for my next OCI 😊
 
The way I see it, this video demonstrates that filling the filter may help, and won't hurt, assuming your engine is conducive to that, so why not?

Also, for guys scratching their heads, wondering about 0W-20 vs 5W-30, it gives credence towards the thicker oil. I know what I'm going to do.
 
Well, according to the guy who was with Lake, the engine they used does have a “number of differences to a normal engine, not just in clearances and tolerances, but in materials as well”. None of us know what specs they built their engine to, so we have to take him at his word.

However, it’s not surprising at all that many purpose-built LSX engines are built to a main bearing clearance range of .0021-.0025 inches, whereas the fuel efficient but gutless 2.0L Nu engine in my Elantra has a spec of .00063-.00134 inches. Materials matter too, of course.

The confirmation bias in the comments of his video is hilarious
 
I would hope an engine is machined and assembled with tight tolerances in mind.
The brother in law runs a GM engine lab. He has opinions on their engine tolerances. His track car is some 500 hp Nissan something or other. He doesn't recommend GMs, generally.

I worked at a large chain oil change place for about 7 months, 70-100 cars a day through our store. All this filter priming talk is funny. Only 2 kinds of vehicles EVER had their filters primed; big diesels, and certain small ford cars. Nothing else, canister nor cartridge, was ever primed.

On 20 weight oils, we noticed that the ONLY make which wasn't consistently "burning" or otherwise consuming 20 weights was ford. Subarus, toyotas, kias, gms/chevy, dodges/jeeps, had way too many vehicles coming in at the bottom of dispstick or nothing showing at all. We went through 5w20 synth by the truckload too [f###ing CAFE]. I felt bad every time pumping it in. 5w30 minimum folks! So many get their oil changes every 3k-5k miles thinking they're doing the right thing [following the grade on the oil cap] without a clue they are slowly killing the engine.

I know none of this applies to you all here. Everyone here is anal on their intervals and checking levels and monitoring for consumption and problems. Keep with the watery oils then. Too bad for everyone else I guess, who knows no better. It's a **** shame.
 
The brother in law runs a GM engine lab. He has opinions on their engine tolerances. His track car is some 500 hp Nissan something or other. He doesn't recommend GMs, generally.

I worked at a large chain oil change place for about 7 months, 70-100 cars a day through our store. All this filter priming talk is funny. Only 2 kinds of vehicles EVER had their filters primed; big diesels, and certain small ford cars. Nothing else, canister nor cartridge, was ever primed.

On 20 weight oils, we noticed that the ONLY make which wasn't consistently "burning" or otherwise consuming 20 weights was ford. Subarus, toyotas, kias, gms/chevy, dodges/jeeps, had way too many vehicles coming in at the bottom of dispstick or nothing showing at all. We went through 5w20 synth by the truckload too [f###ing CAFE]. I felt bad every time pumping it in. 5w30 minimum folks! So many get their oil changes every 3k-5k miles thinking they're doing the right thing [following the grade on the oil cap] without a clue they are slowly killing the engine.

I know none of this applies to you all here. Everyone here is anal on their intervals and checking levels and monitoring for consumption and problems. Keep with the watery oils then. Too bad for everyone else I guess, who knows no better. It's a **** shame.
Just because your shop did a lot of oil changes, and priming the filter would add work, that doesn't mean that it's the wrong thing to do.
 
I’m still not sure how pre-filling an oil filter matters. How many get pre-filled before installation? 2% worldwide every year? No way of knowing that but most do not.

So, Kohler and Cummins say something about it. How about Toyota, Mazda, Honda, GM, Ford, etc.?

Certainly doesn’t hurt anything but not a big deal either way. My .02.

Not a fan of lake six speed to be honest. He speaks over everyone. Can’t get through his videos. Plus he gave a shout out to PF?

Come on man….
 
The only thing this video showed is if you can prefill then do it however most importantly it showed that at every oil change there was wear with low viscosity being worse. 3k mile oil changes will wear out bearings quicker since wear is happening very shortly after starting once oil change is complete.
 
The only thing this video showed is if you can prefill then do it however most importantly it showed that at every oil change there was wear with low viscosity being worse. 3k mile oil changes will wear out bearings quicker since wear is happening very shortly after starting once oil change is complete.

I haven’t watched video yet but my 2006 Jeep 4.0 in-line 6 recommended 3k mile oci’s

Did bearing change a lot since then?
 
I call bs on the whole frequent oil changes are actually are harder on the motor. Even if the fresh oil strips off the old oil tribolfilm, the slight uptick in wear is so infinitesimal I don’t know if it rly matters.

My F250 recommends 2,500-3,000 miles oCI’s in the serve schedule
 
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