Kia Telluride

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Well this thread has gone to trash-COVID makes brand bashing a popular pastime.

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I have no problem with the KIA or the Toyota. Why the need to brand bash? The Telluride is a nice vehicle as is the 4Runner. But I freely admit to being an FCA fanboy, probably will buy another new one in the next week or two.
Because how dare you have a different opinion.
 
We considered a Telluride recently but passed on it. Its a fine, fine vehicle but overpriced. Interestingly, I saw on TV later that some dealers are wanting over sticker pricing. In the economy of today, thats just absurd. If you can find a bargain one one though, it would be a great choice. The Telluride quality ratings are excellent.
Over sticker, for a KIA? Or any vehicle for that matter, I laugh as I walk out and tell them where they can park the vehicle.
 
People rarely go to post a pleasant experience, but they sure will post about a negative one.

After reading some of the reviews, it seems like a lot of dealer incompetence and the infamous THETA failures.

I’m putting Consumer Affairs up there with dashboard-light.com, irrelevant.
As an owner of two Mopars … I’m not obsessed and always rooting for the quality underdog … what you and I buy just might not be the same quality as Toyota … life goes on.
That’s not car and driver … they just collect feedback. How did Toyota do so much better even with way more feedback (to your negative comment)
And the best warranty comments, they don’t have much choice there.
 
Over sticker, for a KIA? Or any vehicle for that matter, I laugh as I walk out and tell them where they can park the vehicle.

Do they get mad at you and act silly when you want to spend less than sticker? Of course not. The seller wants maximum cost for their product and the buyer wants the least. That's how capitalism works.
 
Do they get mad at you and act silly when you want to spend less than sticker? Of course not. The seller wants maximum cost for their product and the buyer wants the least. That's how capitalism works.
If they laugh at me more power to them, they won't see a penny of my money. As far as the business and how capitalism works, I know all about it. I've been in business over 40 years. In fact I sold cars for a while, and was the #1 Kia and Suzuki salesman in the NE US after three months of selling cars. I won't bore you with any more details, I left the business after working at a few other franchises.

If someone wanted to pay over sticker for a Kia or anything else I was selling I'd be happy to take their money.
 
Guys - Thanks for all of the valuable input and insights. The Detroit Kia dealers are selling below sticker and my daughter is looking for a 2-3 year lease, so trade-in value is not an issue.
The garlic/rotting food smell would be a deal breaker. Styrene plastic off-gassing maybe? I do recall seeing a Motorweek episode a few weeks back where they noted the garlic smell on a Pallisade road test.
Appreciate everyone’s opinions.
 
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I've enjoyed my one Hyundai. It continues to be a great car for the price. That said, Hyundai's (and Kia's) dealerships are the absolute worst. I've yet to find a good one. It's unfortunate, because it lets down an otherwise great car.
 
I've enjoyed my one Hyundai. It continues to be a great car for the price. That said, Hyundai's (and Kia's) dealerships are the absolute worst. I've yet to find a good one. It's unfortunate, because it lets down an otherwise great car.

Hmmm. I can't say anything good about my local dealer, either. I test drove an Optima and they were really slimy and had a very untrustworthiness about them. They took a bit too long to photocopy and return my driver's license to me. They lost me right from the start with that.
 
I've enjoyed my one Hyundai. It continues to be a great car for the price. That said, Hyundai's (and Kia's) dealerships are the absolute worst. I've yet to find a good one. It's unfortunate, because it lets down an otherwise great car.

The Hyundai dealer I used for my previous 2011 Sonata was great at first, but service quality gradually dropped over the course of 5 years as they became more and more popular and got busier. The night that I bought the car, it took almost 4 hours to take delivery and it was mid-week with only 2 customers in the dealership actually purchasing.

While shopping at the time I also visited another high volume dealership in a neighboring town. They had $8,000 "market adjustments" on ALL of their cars, which is how they were able to advertise huge discounts on Hyundais. They would simply take off the market adjustment and you still ended up paying sticker. When I questioned the sales person, he simply said "oh, you can ignore that. we don't make anyone pay the market adjustment." After test driving a Sonata there, I wasn't sure I wanted to buy right then and there. I was coming from a V6 Impala, and Hyundai had stopped offering a V6 Sonata for the 2011 model year. When I expressed some hesitance to going from a V6 to a 4cyl, the sales manager actually came out and said to me "so you are the guy who doesn't think our 4cyl Sonata is good enough for you? You know, V6 powered cars are going away soon so you need to make up your mind sooner or later." Then he just walked away. As I was leaving I had to walk through the service department, and they had a big sign that said "All Hyundai vehicles have a timing belt that requires replacement at 65,000 miles. If you do not get this service done, your 100K mile powertrain warranty is null and void. No exceptions." Nice...really classy.

I had my fair share of problems with my 2011 Sonata, and between routine maintenance, recalls, and repairs visited the dealer probably 30 times over 5 years. They actually knew me and would great me by name when I arrived for service, which I am not sure is a good thing. When I was shopping for a new car, I did test drive a new 2015 Sonata 2.0T and the dealer said "we know you didn't have the best experience with your 2011, but we are sure you would like this one much better!" Despite a discount of $5,000 off, I just couldn't commit to another long term relationship with a Hyundai at that point.
 
Motorweek had the Hyundai version as a long term vehicle. They said a lot of good things about it and I think the total mpg was about 24. Mught want ro check their comments out. She is leasing, so it's all pretty predetermined. Not a bad way to go if you know what you are doing. I never leased though, probably should have on some. Sounds like she knows what she is doing and wants.
 
Hmmm. I can't say anything good about my local dealer, either. I test drove an Optima and they were really slimy and had a very untrustworthiness about them. They took a bit too long to photocopy and return my driver's license to me. They lost me right from the start with that.
Not good news for them … I lived in Korea for 2 years … very faithful to their own makes … and not a “Toyota town” … no doubt in my mind that’s the company they want to pass up and pass up for good …
 
Not good news for them … I lived in Korea for 2 years … very faithful to their own makes … and not a “Toyota town” … no doubt in my mind that’s the company they want to pass up and pass up for good …

Mirrors my visit to Seoul. I was surprised at the number of Chevrolets I saw there, and the K9 is a nice car to be driven around in!
 
My grandma has a 2015 Kia Soul I have not got a break from working on it the whole time she has owned it since 2016.

My daughter has a 2015 Soul I helped her buy new. Now at 80k miles (and still on the original tires) it's been repaired exactly once. Just after delivery there was a defective AC hose that had to be replaced. That's it, been a fantastic car.

Agree with comments about the dealers... not up to the level of the cars for sure.
 
Another post count....

you keep spamming posts like this you you have aprox 935/year posts.. the guy you are bashing has around 1300.. not a huge difference there.
Your average posts per day are higher than mine. should I be but-hurt?

back on topic. I wouldnt buy a hyundai at 5000$ over msrp.

I did buy a 2020 elantra.. but it was $15500 on 22k msrp.
 
Do they get mad at you and act silly when you want to spend less than sticker? Of course not. The seller wants maximum cost for their product and the buyer wants the least. That's how capitalism works.

But you have to realize the sticker price is purposly set up high to allow for negoaitions and the "sales events" they put on. Ads scream "$XXXX below sticker!!!" by design.

IF the sticker prices was set at a lower, realistic level, then you would have a point.
 
But you have to realize the sticker price is purposly set up high to allow for negoaitions and the "sales events" they put on. Ads scream "$XXXX below sticker!!!" by design.

IF the sticker prices was set at a lower, realistic level, then you would have a point.

Yes just like "Ford Truck Month"................$12,000.00 off sticker right now.
 
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