Kia/hyundai 2.4 problem years..

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So we had a Mazda cx5 picked out after looking for a vehicle for the wife (a 2016), which the dealer sold out from under us.. so anyways..

We've been finding Kia sorentos and Hyundai santa fes with the 2.4 engine (2016+) at decent prices.

Now I believe these are the same engines.. what years were these the same engines?

Also, we know kia had a lot of problems with the 2.4 engines and debris in them, recalls, etc... does anyone know what years this was fixed or what years it affects?
 
Originally Posted by sh40674
So we had a Mazda cx5 picked out after looking for a vehicle for the wife (a 2016), which the dealer sold out from under us.. so anyways..

We've been finding Kia sorentos and Hyundai santa fes with the 2.4 engine (2016+) at decent prices.

Now I believe these are the same engines.. what years were these the same engines?

Also, we know kia had a lot of problems with the 2.4 engines and debris in them, recalls, etc... does anyone know what years this was fixed or what years it affects?



For just a little bit more dollars you can buy a Hyundai (Santa Fe XL) 3.3 V6 and not worry about the 4 cylinder issues. That's what I have and the 3.3's are great motors. BTW-As an option the 3.3 was available in the Sorento as well.
 
I've had a few 2.4L equipped H/K models. One went to 188K miles. I had a pinging issue with one 2012 Sonata (had to use 93 octane) but that was it. The other Sonata, Sportage were rock solid. I would say buy if you like it. But first make sure the knocksensor recall has been completed.

My wife also has a 2013 Santa Fe Sport with over 200K miles on it. It has been the most reliable vehicle she's ever owned.

But the 3.3 is much nicer engine. There no denying the issues the 2.4 has had.
 
girlfriends preowned 18 optima 2.4L running great + unlike her traded oil drinking 13 2.5L malibu!! if possible new is better with hyundi's + kia's super warranty. new pricing is less than many other used brands especially if buying a basic one!
 
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The "safe" years seem to be a moving target, I'd also opt for the V6 if you can find one. Not just to avoid possible issues either, I just drove a Santa Fe rental with a 4 cylinder and yuck it needed a V6.
 
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Start lookin here. I know for sure they went to crap with theTheta 2 DI engines in 2011. What I can't say is that I have ever seen real evidence they fixed their mess that's in the 4 cyls. I know for certain ( the ugly way ) the 2.4, 1.8 and 2.0 suffer the dreaded spun bearing and or death tick or sudden oil guzzling. Some Last some die. Trade ins for these in my experience is someplace between bad and horrible. to all the Hyundai fans out there we traded to, so why do I know🥱 Cheap in and cheap 🚽out . If you can live with that and keep it within the warranty go right for it.
You'll note that all their serious engine problems are in the 4 bangers. If you gotta have one get a 6 cyl if you can find one. I'd not go near a used one with ANY serious mileage on it. Last I knew they extended the power train warranty out to 120k in the US on the affected models .
A few of the biggest Kia dealers have offered 200k power train on theirs backed by the dealership once the 120 company warranty goes away. That was a few years back so take it FWIW.
The thing remember here is what a few mechanics told me. They have a tendency to die at around 120,000 or so it seems. If you have a problem with one of these and need an engine gonna have to swallow hard to cough up $5000 for a car that's worth less than seven at that point in it's life. Even worse that engine could do the same thing in a much earlier date which leaves you what???
There's been at least a few stories with these guys trying to say they cured the problem. First it was blamed on aftermarket oil filters then finally In 2012 it was the new American factory leaving shavings in the engine, fixed with a new process to clear the blocks of milling's. Cured by 4/2012🤥. Nothing changed in spite of this. In 2014 the Elantras got some Sort of new coatings on the cylinder walls 🥴As the original was wearing off and plugging the Oil journals or so they say. Well for whatever reason they continued dying at the same rate and continue to do so to this day. In the beginning hyundai work very hard at blaming the customers. Eventually that failed so they went into the stories I related here. Now as of last year they had dedicated 880 million to furnishing replacement engines.
Along the way they fired the engineer who let it slip that the engines were not good from day one. Hyundai even siced the Korean police on this poor honest man and he got charged with some crime. In fact for all the illegal aliens that sneak across the border claiming phony amnesty this decades dedicated senior engineer would be a classic case for real amnesty. Both the government and big corporation are ruining him for telling the truth. So how far are you going to trust these characters? I sure wouldn't again but that's just me.
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My 2011 Kia Optima with the 2.4 engine has been the most reliable vehicle that I have ever owned other than my 2003 Civic Hybrid. The Optima is still going strong and I wouldn't hesitate to take it on a trip to Florida and back (from Ontario). Does anyone know what the definitive root cause of the engine failures are and if place of manufacture had anything to do with it?
 
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Originally Posted by Driz
https://www.hyundai-forums.com/

Start lookin here. I know for sure they went to crap with theTheta 2 DI engines in 2011. What I can't say is that I have ever seen real evidence they fixed their mess that's in the 4 cyls. I know for certain ( the ugly way ) the 2.4, 1.8 and 2.0 suffer the dreaded spun bearing and or death tick or sudden oil guzzling. Some Last some die. Trade ins for these in my experience is someplace between bad and horrible. to all the Hyundai fans out there we traded to, so why do I know🥱 Cheap in and cheap 🚽out . If you can live with that and keep it within the warranty go right for it.
You'll note that all their serious engine problems are in the 4 bangers. If you gotta have one get a 6 cyl if you can find one. I'd not go near a used one with ANY serious mileage on it. Last I knew they extended the power train warranty out to 120k in the US on the affected models .
A few of the biggest Kia dealers have offered 200k power train on theirs backed by the dealership once the 120 company warranty goes away. That was a few years back so take it FWIW.
The thing remember here is what a few mechanics told me. They have a tendency to die at around 120,000 or so it seems. If you have a problem with one of these and need an engine gonna have to swallow hard to cough up $5000 for a car that's worth less than seven at that point in it's life. Even worse that engine could do the same thing in a much earlier date which leaves you what???
There's been at least a few stories with these guys trying to say they cured the problem. First it was blamed on aftermarket oil filters then finally In 2012 it was the new American factory leaving shavings in the engine, fixed with a new process to clear the blocks of milling's. Cured by 4/2012🤥. Nothing changed in spite of this. In 2014 the Elantras got some Sort of new coatings on the cylinder walls 🥴As the original was wearing off and plugging the Oil journals or so they say. Well for whatever reason they continued dying at the same rate and continue to do so to this day. In the beginning hyundai work very hard at blaming the customers. Eventually that failed so they went into the stories I related here. Now as of last year they had dedicated 880 million to furnishing replacement engines.
Along the way they fired the engineer who let it slip that the engines were not good from day one. Hyundai even siced the Korean police on this poor honest man and he got charged with some crime. In fact for all the illegal aliens that sneak across the border claiming phony amnesty this decades dedicated senior engineer would be a classic case for real amnesty. Both the government and big corporation are ruining him for telling the truth. So how far are you going to trust these characters? I sure wouldn't again but that's just me.
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Here we go. Ford had the exploding gas tanks-felt it was cheaper to litigate the fatalities with the families than fix the problem. The Expedition was burning down garages with a cruise control problem. Then there was Toyota with "sudden acceleration" also Audi had the same problems. The Chevrolet Cruze that would suddenly turn off. You can go through every manufacturer and play "big bad corporation".

So-let us know when you start walking or riding a bike-but that's just me..............
 
On Edit-it was the Cavalier that the motor would stop. NOT THE CRUZE.
 
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It's interesting to me that the FCA version of this engine built in Dundee, Michigan doesn't have the claimed problems of the Hyundai/Kia versions.

Driz's story about how the manufacturer handled the issues sounds exactly what I was reading on the Subaru forums when they had oil burning issues after the introduction of their new engine in 2011. I agree with CKN that every mfg. has one issue or another.
 
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