I was just recently in both Portland and Seattle. While both cites are stunning-they have issues ESPECIALLY with the homeless populations. L.A. is not alone by any stretch.
It’s Official: Generator Ban Passes in California
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I was just recently in both Portland and Seattle. While both cites are stunning-they have issues ESPECIALLY with the homeless populations. L.A. is not alone by any stretch.
They probably will be much lower. Only one of those has emmissions controls.
ah so burning 6x the fuel will result in lower C02 emissions?
They also tried to tell me running my lawn mower for 30min produces more emissions than a 300 mile drive in car..
Have you ever seen the buses and trucks? Giant clouds of soot and stink you out of your car.. yep they are clean.
I get they cherry pick which emissions they are counting. I was being semi-sarcastic.
they can just ban 2 strokes but leave the 4 strokes alone. if they really cared about the environment they'd force automakers to have much lower oil consumption limits.
I’m not sure what the emissions profile is when oil burning is introduced, but an intolerable 1qt per 1kmiles will have what, some 30 to 50 gallons of gas burned alongside? I have a tough time believing that even at that level the emissions are horrible. Not when it still has to pass through the cat.
Meanwhile most OPE run carbs, no cats (that may be changing, but if so then is it in the same class of goodness as on a car?) and little to no evaporative emissions equipment (it makes pollution while doing nothing).
I always had to wonder about those cheap red plastic gas cans with the yellow nozzle immersed in gasoline. I'll bet they contribute a lot of spilled gasoline and raw hydrocarbon emissions when multiplied by several million. Maybe they are illegal already in California?
Whoops.I answered my own question. Yes I believe those cans were made “ non compliant” a long ago.
Whoops.I answered my own question. Yes I believe those cans were made “ non compliant” a long ago.
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Before the generator manufacturers throw in the towel, I'll bet we will see fuel injected models with catalytic convertors. Maybe some are out there already? Here is a fuel injected version.
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Yes. Than a modern passenger car with multi-stage cats, fine computer control over timing and fuel injection, and now particle filters on some gas cars? Versus a small engine with a carbeurator, probably set to run lean (thus high NOX emissions) and no fine control, no cats, no EGR, no anything. So yeah, small engines are far, far, far more polluting than cars. Electric mowers/leaf blowers/etc have been the norm in other countries for years. When I visited some friends in Germany I even commented on this, and they had never in their lives seen a gas powered lawnmower or leafblower/trimmer.
And besides that, like with electric cars, long term ownership will be far cheaper even with a higher entry bar. Unlike a gas OPE engine, electric requires no fuel, no maintenance like spark plugs, air filters, oil changes. Not to mention health benefits to operators (not breathing in the smog emissions, again like higher NOX with these), hearing (how many people *actually* use earplugs while operating?). The main issue will be people with larger properties, but I doubt this will affect tractors.
Guessing if they were born there they might grow up liking it.
I hear they can have some nice weather too.
Lastly, isn’t it a big state? long that is. Kinda rough believing its all the same opinion and weather up and down its length.
Oh, and how about the plane(s) you flew on to Germany and back. Just think of the emissions it pumped into the upper atmosphere. I wonder how many lawn mowers it would take to equal that? I think most air travel should be banned.
So interestingly, most airlines now will tell you how much CO2 a certain leg is estimated to create. The Lufthansa flight I flew on emitted about 350KG of CO2 per leg, so about 1400lb roundtrip. Your average lawnmower engine emits about 90lb/hr of CO2... So in effect that 15 hours of flying is equivalent to 15 1/2 hours roughly of lawnmower operations. And that was a on a 747-8, if it was a twinjet like an A350 it would be substantially less. But since you decided to bring it up, airlines and aircraft manufacturers are looking into ways to reduce CO2 emissions and aren't constantly whining about it like you are.
People like you LOVE whataboutism. You are like "oh OPE is only like 7% of carbon emissions thats nothing. Oh coal power plants are only 10% of emissions that's nothing. Oh cars are only 10% of carbon emissions. And then when all's said and and done you are at 100% of carbon emissions, but since you've decided that *everything* is "nothing" nothing ever gets done.
Ha, don't like it when your flying hours are threatened. Wake up pal.
? Not sure I understand—he gave some numbers to argue with. I’m not sure about them, they seem off, but I am not sure I care enough to check them.
Exactly, two things can be true at the same time.
The real question is are we at the point of diminishing returns?
I don't think anyone wants to go back to the 1960s vintage emissions. But I don't see a $1000 Mr Fusion available at my local RV outlet so that folks can create electricity from the dung in their sewage tanks either.
If you're worried about global warming and the environment, the best, most impactful thing you could do is to not have kids.
They are just outsourcing the pollution to other countries and out of state, since CA already imports something around 30% of its electricity, the pollution generated to produce the power needed to charge the rare earth element battery in you new lawn mower (if you have a lawn) will be someone else's problem, same with the Lithium mine in some 3rd world country.
But I guess that is kinda what consumer happiness is about.
But I guess that is kinda what consumer happiness is about.
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