It's Never Too Late to Live Longer

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX

To also mention to eat healthy foods is also VERY exspensive.


That is the biggest fallacy of them all. Eating healthy DOES NOT mean you have to eat the 5 servings of veggies a day. It means you cook your own food and use fresh ingredients. If anything, eating healthy and cooking at home is CHEAPER than eating processed, fast, or take out food.

I can make a healthy slow cooker recipe that costs 10 bucks and will give me 4 BIG meals.

 

[Footpounds]

It's not about the dying that's important. Everyone dies. It's about the quality of living and a healthy lifestyle gives you an edge in that regard.

 

[greenaccord02]

We're all going out of the life the same way. I'm not going to be accused of wasting it. I'll eat what I want, in moderation. You need to get acquainted with the idea that someday you'll die and no amount of carrots and fruit juice will stop it.

Julia child lived quite some time herself, and was one of McDonald's most vocal critics... Of switching their fryers to vegetable oil from beef tallow.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
As I recall (never watched the whole thing), the Supersize me guy intentionally over ate and would always "supersize" to the largest portions when asked.

That's not smart eating and it's hardly surprising that his health deteriorated eating nothing but too much fast food.


Duh it's not smart eating; he was trying to show how that vast majority of US citizens eat. He wasn't trying to be stupid, he was showing that the corporatization of food is unhealthy. Watch the whole movie before you become an expert.

The federal government just passed a law that essentially makes it illegal to grow your own food if you don't meet all the new regulations and such. Guess who lobbied the most for it: the corporate food industry. Imagine that; not being able to grow your own food.

 

[Boomer]

Reminds me of a bit of dark humor that used to circulate where I worked for almost thirty years.

We have good news and bad news.
The good news is you will all live to be at least 150 years old!
The bad news is retirement age has been raised to 145.

 

[Tempest]

Quote:
Key found little, if any, connection between eating lots of fruits and vegetables and the likelihood of developing cancer. "The conclusion implies that, at least in relatively well-nourished westernised populations, a general increase in total fruit and vegetable intake will not have a large impact on cancer rates," he wrote. "A certain level of intake is necessary to prevent nutrient deficiencies, but intakes above that level do not make the relavant tissues 'super healthy'."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/dec/01/fruit-vegetables-overall-cancer-risk
Just another reference point.
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the corporatization of food

What does that mean?
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The federal government just passed a law that essentially makes it illegal to grow your own food if you don't meet all the new regulations and such.

I thought regulations were good! And the Federal government has been able to regulate home gardens since 1942 because the government wanted to enforce HIGHER prices on people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

 

[PandaBear]

I don't care about living to 80 if I am bound to a hospital bed since 50. I want my life to end quickly once my health deteriorate to a point of pain and to a point of bothering the rest of the world, and especially to people dear to me.

Give me 70 years of good health and happiness, and I'll take that over 200 years of suffering. Eating twinkie diet may lose you weight but would certainly not make you healthy. I want healthy weight if it means I'll look fat.

 

[CivicFan]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Can you imagine the gastrointestinal reality of the guy who ate twinkees, potato chips and cookies for 10 weeks!


I'm not sure about twinkies but potato chips, if low salt, and oatmeal cookies would not have adverse effects on the gastrointestinal system if eaten in moderation.

Chips and oatmeal cookies have fiber in them so it will help move things along but the person will definitely be malnourished.

 

[JHZR2]

Sugar, Salt and HFCS are our enemies.

 

[pottymouth]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Sugar, Salt and HFCS are our enemies.


True enough, but so are saturated fats when consumed in the quantities that the average American does.

 

[cos]

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That is the biggest fallacy of them all. Eating healthy DOES NOT mean you have to eat the 5 servings of veggies a day. It means you cook your own food and use fresh ingredients. If anything, eating healthy and cooking at home is CHEAPER than eating processed, fast, or take out food.

I can make a healthy slow cooker recipe that costs 10 bucks and will give me 4 BIG meals.


+1

 

[Lurch]

I thought this article would be good "food for thought" here. If I told you what I eat every day, you'd really roll your eyes.

 

[andyd]

Yah, ever since I settled breast cancer and I prolly am gonna last the few decades. I have lotsa deferred maintenance to deal with. Last month, I finally got my elbow worked on. That is mending OK, but my bad teeth caught up to me. I try to eat as much low process food as possible. I have a bread machine and I make 2 loaves a week. 3 Crunchy PB and Jays are my daily work rations. Sorta like homemade power bars. Fiber is good because it keeps your plumbing in good working order. Cabbage, beans, rice,onions, root veggies.

 

[crinkles]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Sugar, Salt and HFCS are our enemies.


cane sugar = 50% fructose, 50% glucose
HFCS = 55% fructose, 45% glucose (most used formula).

not much between the two. HFCS is cheaper , hence corporations use it.

fructose is a horrible thing for the human body. I'd love to post a link to a book I read recently but people on this board have become less accpeting of alternative views. JMHO.

cancers, diabetes, heart disease all trend up with increasing sugar (specifically fructose) consumption since 150 years ago.

Fructose is in fruit, but you can never eat enough FRESH fruit (without being overfull) to get the same fructose hit as added fructose through sugar in our modern diet.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Note that eating WHOLE fruit is the way it was designed. Good for you.

Juice, etc., is when we play with it and ruins it as a food.

If you use organic/natural cane sugar it actually has a lower glycemic index than white refined sugar.

 

[Lurch]

Originally Posted By: crinkles
I'd love to post a link to a book I read recently but people on this board have become less accpeting of alternative views. JMHO.


I know exactly what you mean. I, as a messenger, have been "shot" here many times for views that seemed anything other than "politically correct".

 

[NJC]

Originally Posted By: crinkles
I'd love to post a link to a book I read recently but people on this board have become less accpeting of alternative views.

Please do post.

Healthy eating, like many things, have become polarized. I think there's room for A LOT of Western dietary improvement, and it doesn't have to come at a cost to flavour or variety.

 

[doitmyself]

I,too, enjoy being reminded of this stuff and I am open to hear other views and perspectives. I say stick that leg out of the frying pan (healthy oil, of course) and into the fire, Lurch.

Plus, no one here has condemned bacon yet, so let the discussions about fruit and exercise continue.

 

[PandaBear]

I don't think it is fair to condemn any food; it is the eating habbit like overeat and eating it too frequently that causes the problem.

I enjoy McDonalds, KFC, soda, etc once in a while. Once a week is fine, but I don't think it would be right to make it 3 meals a day out of these things and then blame it on them.

Our lives are getting busier and busier, and we are paying the price for convenience with our health. Bad eating habbit is just one of the many symptoms of our problems.

 

[Jeffs2006EvoIX]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX

To also mention to eat healthy foods is also VERY exspensive.


That is the biggest fallacy of them all. Eating healthy DOES NOT mean you have to eat the 5 servings of veggies a day. It means you cook your own food and use fresh ingredients. If anything, eating healthy and cooking at home is CHEAPER than eating processed, fast, or take out food.

I can make a healthy slow cooker recipe that costs 10 bucks and will give me 4 BIG meals.


Depends on where you live. I NEVER eat out. Or should say VERY RARE that I do. Eating at home, and home cooked meals is what we do at my home. The thing is, that the market a bag of apples? $8, fresh carrots? $5, Avacados? $1 each, I can go on and on, the price to eat at home healthy, is Exspensive. Now if you live close to a farmer that sells stuff on the side then sweet!! but if you live in a rural area like I do where everything gets trucked in from miles a way, the price goes up.

Where I grew up in Ventura CA, we had farm fresh stuff all the time. I miss those days, living in the Desert in CA is tough, not only on you as a person, but your wallet. Water, and food are VERY exspensive where I live.

Jeff

PS. The price quotes are from my local super walmart. Not cheap.