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Originally Posted by madeej11
Never seen a Mobil 1 product advertising 25k. They would if they could, they can't so they won't. 20k is the most I've seen. AP. Yes they buy base stocks from Mobil but they blend them better.
I'm telling you that they did BECAUSE THEY DID...on the TV and in papers/mags.
Here's their conventional oil in 87(ish), note the claim....
![[Linked Image]](https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/attachments/usergals/2018/04/full-688-24513-20180429_104446.jpg "[Linked Image]")
And here's their M1...
![[Linked Image]](https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/attachments/usergals/2018/04/full-688-24518-20180429_110212.jpg "[Linked Image]")
Ring their tech line in the day, and they confirmed 40,000km or 1 year. Once they established that you were out of warranty (was only 12 months back then anyway)
So Yes, the can make the oil and yes they did advertise it, regardless of whether you've seen the ads...which you now have.
Never seen a Mobil 1 product advertising 25k. They would if they could, they can't so they won't. 20k is the most I've seen. AP. Yes they buy base stocks from Mobil but they blend them better.
I'm telling you that they did BECAUSE THEY DID...on the TV and in papers/mags.
Here's their conventional oil in 87(ish), note the claim....
And here's their M1...
Ring their tech line in the day, and they confirmed 40,000km or 1 year. Once they established that you were out of warranty (was only 12 months back then anyway)
So Yes, the can make the oil and yes they did advertise it, regardless of whether you've seen the ads...which you now have.
More ads from my collection here
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/printthread/Board/1/main/288319/type/thread
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/printthread/Board/1/main/288319/type/thread
"Turbo tested to retain its viscosity at temperatures up to a staggering 350C."
Must not be the temperature of the oil itself, but the hot bearings on the turbo that the oil makes contact with.
No oil really "retains its viscosity" as it heats up. More advertising spin. They probably mean there isn't any complete viscosity loss/breakdown from turbo heat while in use.
Must not be the temperature of the oil itself, but the hot bearings on the turbo that the oil makes contact with.
No oil really "retains its viscosity" as it heats up. More advertising spin. They probably mean there isn't any complete viscosity loss/breakdown from turbo heat while in use.
Not to mention there are Youtube videos online of folks blindly going 25K on Amsoil Signature series without doing a lab test on the oil to see if the oil is suited for their application/driving patterns and their engines aren't blowing up. Could you imagine the lawsuits if the oil wasn't capable of 25K?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYPvTuZJv4 (Amateur that ran it 25K)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt1Oh9kp3Lc (Independent Lab Test using F-150's)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYPvTuZJv4 (Amateur that ran it 25K)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt1Oh9kp3Lc (Independent Lab Test using F-150's)
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Because they rely on independent dealers to sell their product whereas M1 sells through Retailers that don't require this same type of marketing which in a way is good because you would have scores and scores of bad review on YouTube if the product wasn't top rate stuff like Mobil 1 Extended Performance /AP.
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The OP just wasted energy resources of thousands of people on such a worthless post. Good job.
Originally Posted by Shannow
You HONESTLY believe that AmSOIL can do a better job than Mobil ?
Wow...
All I'm saying is present day advertising the most we're seeing is 20k miles from Mobil 1. It seems to me that Mobil is always trying to catch up to Amsoil concerning both companies top tier oils. Yes, my personal belief is that AMSOIL Signature Series is a better product than Mobil 1 Annual Protection. JMO.
You HONESTLY believe that AmSOIL can do a better job than Mobil ?
Wow...
All I'm saying is present day advertising the most we're seeing is 20k miles from Mobil 1. It seems to me that Mobil is always trying to catch up to Amsoil concerning both companies top tier oils. Yes, my personal belief is that AMSOIL Signature Series is a better product than Mobil 1 Annual Protection. JMO.
It has always been in caps, but it hasn't always been AMSOIL.
Maybe the PENNZOIL people got mad because someone else was sounding their Z.
I always thought the acronym was for American Multi-level marketing Synthetic OIL.
Maybe the PENNZOIL people got mad because someone else was sounding their Z.
I always thought the acronym was for American Multi-level marketing Synthetic OIL.
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Originally Posted by madeej11
Originally Posted by Shannow
You HONESTLY believe that AmSOIL can do a better job than Mobil ?
Wow...
All I'm saying is present day advertising the most we're seeing is 20k miles from Mobil 1. It seems to me that Mobil is always trying to catch up to Amsoil concerning both companies top tier oils. Yes, my personal belief is that AMSOIL Signature Series is a better product than Mobil 1 Annual Protection. JMO.
They aren't comparable products. Mobil 1 Annual Protection has to conform to the limits of the API, ACEA and whatever manufacturer approvals it carries, AMSOIL Signature Series doesn't. If Mobil were to take the same approach as AMSOIL, which they could certainly do, considering they are one of the largest producers of synthetic base stocks in the world and one of the companies AMSOIL buys from, they could certainly do up their own non-conforming additive package through Infineum and fire it into a PAO/Esterex base combo and sell it for less. But they don't, as their only non-approved lubricant is their Racing lineup.
So while there might be some overlap on the OCI duration front, the products themselves are markedly different because of the whole approvals thing.
Originally Posted by Shannow
You HONESTLY believe that AmSOIL can do a better job than Mobil ?
Wow...
All I'm saying is present day advertising the most we're seeing is 20k miles from Mobil 1. It seems to me that Mobil is always trying to catch up to Amsoil concerning both companies top tier oils. Yes, my personal belief is that AMSOIL Signature Series is a better product than Mobil 1 Annual Protection. JMO.
They aren't comparable products. Mobil 1 Annual Protection has to conform to the limits of the API, ACEA and whatever manufacturer approvals it carries, AMSOIL Signature Series doesn't. If Mobil were to take the same approach as AMSOIL, which they could certainly do, considering they are one of the largest producers of synthetic base stocks in the world and one of the companies AMSOIL buys from, they could certainly do up their own non-conforming additive package through Infineum and fire it into a PAO/Esterex base combo and sell it for less. But they don't, as their only non-approved lubricant is their Racing lineup.
So while there might be some overlap on the OCI duration front, the products themselves are markedly different because of the whole approvals thing.
UAPPROVED oil, no thanks.
Originally Posted by madRiver
UAPPROVED oil, no thanks.
Originally Posted by Shannow
Originally Posted by madRiver
UAPPROVED oil, no thanks.
Trust them...they say that getting it approved would make it a lesser product.
And as you can see...people actually BELIEVE THEM !!!
hahahahahaha
They have a line of API licensed licensed fluids called OE. But by all means continue to hate on them for their Signature Series and use your castrated API licensed oils instead I mean it's not like there is a plethora of used oil analysis here including extended drain interval ones where the fluid has held up quite well, or anything. Oh and if you could provide proof of lawsuits where warranty was denied for using this oil or where the lubricant failed to hold up and caused damage I'm all ears. Them being around for 40 years should have yielded this by now.
UAPPROVED oil, no thanks.
Originally Posted by Shannow
Originally Posted by madRiver
UAPPROVED oil, no thanks.
Trust them...they say that getting it approved would make it a lesser product.
And as you can see...people actually BELIEVE THEM !!!
hahahahahaha
They have a line of API licensed licensed fluids called OE. But by all means continue to hate on them for their Signature Series and use your castrated API licensed oils instead I mean it's not like there is a plethora of used oil analysis here including extended drain interval ones where the fluid has held up quite well, or anything. Oh and if you could provide proof of lawsuits where warranty was denied for using this oil or where the lubricant failed to hold up and caused damage I'm all ears. Them being around for 40 years should have yielded this by now.
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To me SS or go home ... probably the best stuff out there but it's not approved or in line with how I do PM and replace vehicles ...
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Originally Posted by Diesel12
Overrated and Overpriced in my opinion.Ill stick with Americas oldest oil company Since 1839
You remind me of that guy a while back that kept pushing Schaeffer oil, but he got banned.
But I'll play along. What if I purchased Schaeffer Advanced European Performance Full SAPS 5w30 for my BMW? It appears to be just about twice the price of Castrol 0W-40 from Walmart (which has actual Longlife-01 approval). What would I get for the extra money from the Schaeffer oil, and how would I know? What benefits would I see to make it worth the money?
Overrated and Overpriced in my opinion.Ill stick with Americas oldest oil company Since 1839
You remind me of that guy a while back that kept pushing Schaeffer oil, but he got banned.
But I'll play along. What if I purchased Schaeffer Advanced European Performance Full SAPS 5w30 for my BMW? It appears to be just about twice the price of Castrol 0W-40 from Walmart (which has actual Longlife-01 approval). What would I get for the extra money from the Schaeffer oil, and how would I know? What benefits would I see to make it worth the money?
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