Is this normal in the U.S. ?
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I like unions ,they have been the reason for the prosperity of the middle class That being said. I would eliminate civic/government people being unionized as they are fed from the sloptrough of the tax payer and are not in a competitive workplace.
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I know of a few domino pizza stores in western canada doing the same thing. That is illegal and in the 2 provices that I know it is happening in, if you call someone into work you must pay them for 3 hours. These dominos franchises skirt the labour laws by making the employees contract workers. MeThinks its still illegal anyways.
This sort of stuff has been happening here in New Zealand for a long time.One Government (National,who support business and farmers) abolished unions and brought in the ''Employment Contract Act''.A contract is agreed between employer and employee,is signed and binding.Suddenly people who couldn't afford not to take a job were not being paid extra for overtime or public holidays....they were given a ''day in lieu''.Labour (who support workers and small businesses) got back in and unions were reinstated,but with their teeth pulled....the Employment Contact Act remains.But now the unions work with the employee to make sure the contract doesn't disadvantage them too much.
Retail chains that have shops in malls have a manager and one full time worker,the rest are part time workers - always young girls on junior wages,working shifts just under full time hours.They get no holidays or holiday pay,work weekemds and public holidays for the same low rate and no ''day in lieu''.They love it.
The last contract I had an employee sign earlier this year before I got out of business had no overtime rate.He was a Fijian Indian on a work visa,he had to have a job or he was out of the country.Everyone has to look out for themselves....
Retail chains that have shops in malls have a manager and one full time worker,the rest are part time workers - always young girls on junior wages,working shifts just under full time hours.They get no holidays or holiday pay,work weekemds and public holidays for the same low rate and no ''day in lieu''.They love it.
The last contract I had an employee sign earlier this year before I got out of business had no overtime rate.He was a Fijian Indian on a work visa,he had to have a job or he was out of the country.Everyone has to look out for themselves....
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The perception is that these are "stepping stone" jobs. In the past, here in the USA, they used to be. Now they're becoming permanent, albeit somewhat transient, income for a good number of people.
I marvel at how population management is evolving in the mature industrialized nations. The rate of evolution (or mutation, if you will) is the most amazing thing. We weren't that far off of our apparent peak here.
I marvel at how population management is evolving in the mature industrialized nations. The rate of evolution (or mutation, if you will) is the most amazing thing. We weren't that far off of our apparent peak here.
http://www.business.vic.gov.au/busvicwr/_assets/main/lib60148/greenfields-interim-report.pdf
makes for some interesting reading.
78.2 % of "agreements" exclude all of the "protected conditions" of their previous awards.
20% of such "agreements" are in food/services.
We've just got a new HR manager, who is acclaimed by our management for having implemented these "agreements" in his previous employ.
Looks like an interesting lead up to Christmas.
makes for some interesting reading.
78.2 % of "agreements" exclude all of the "protected conditions" of their previous awards.
20% of such "agreements" are in food/services.
We've just got a new HR manager, who is acclaimed by our management for having implemented these "agreements" in his previous employ.
Looks like an interesting lead up to Christmas.
I can see from your post you were never a govt. worker. Unions are needed in govt. jobs not for wages (they can do very little there) but for abuse in the workplace, which happens more than you think. Examples are working through lunchbreaks w/o getting paid, harrassment from management, etc. A threat of outside arbitration is enough to keep many management types in check.
If faced with this form of exploitation, why not just show up late? How you can you be docked, if you aren't getting paid in the first place?
As unions wane, working conditions and, ultimately, productivity, worsens.
As unions wane, working conditions and, ultimately, productivity, worsens.
andyd, re turning up late.
One of the more publicised AWAs had provisions that if you were sick, and gave less than 12 hours notice, you were "fined" $200 by the employer for his inconvenience.
Apparently legal.
They could similarly incorporate the same for turning up late, I'd expect.
One of the more publicised AWAs had provisions that if you were sick, and gave less than 12 hours notice, you were "fined" $200 by the employer for his inconvenience.
Apparently legal.
They could similarly incorporate the same for turning up late, I'd expect.
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You've gotta always wonder why the advantage always favors one side. It's never truly mutual.
Oh, and Shannow? Christmas has traditionally been the time slot of choice to have the other shoe drop.
Oh, and Shannow? Christmas has traditionally been the time slot of choice to have the other shoe drop.
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