Is anyone seeing “Dexos” on all the Mobil 1 0W-40 bottles

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When the 6.2 ltr GM V8s need 0W-40 Mobil 1 thing came out I saw a Mobil 1 page that showed bottles of all the flavors of 0W-40 with “DEXOS” on the front label. I’m not thinking the FS flavor has shown this yet. It lists “DEXOS R” on their site. Have you seen it on a jug?
 
40 weight oils may have too much zddp for catalytic converters. Thirty weight oils are limited to eight hundred parts per million, unless its a diesel oil, then it can have more. Forty weight and greater are limited to twelve hundred parks per million. So some forty weights may have to much zinc for catalytic converters.
 
40 weight oils may have too much zddp for catalytic converters. Thirty weight oils are limited to eight hundred parts per million, unless its a diesel oil, then it can have more. Forty weight and greater are limited to twelve hundred parks per million. So some forty weights may have to much zinc for catalytic converters.
Has not been the case since 1988.
 
Current Mobil 1 products that are DexosR approved are:
- Mobil 1 Supercar 0W-40
- Mobil 1 Supercar 5W-50
- Mobil 1 Euro FS 0W-40
- Mobil 1 ESP X4 0W-40

The DexosR approval site (see above thanks to @scrllock) also lists a "Mobil 1" in 0W-40. I am assuming that is in reference to either the older Mobil 1 ESP Formula 0W-40... maybe around 2017-19 era or before Supercar came out OR Mobil 1 0W-40 "triple-action" formula sold in other locales/countries.

I haven't personally seen a Mobil 1 Euro FS 0W-40 bottle with the DexosR approval listed on it, or a DexosR logo on the front, but the Mobil product pages for these (4) current offerings do list DexosR approvals. I'd assume packaging has to catch up with already produced product.

Mobil 1 Euro FS 0W-40
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Mobil 1 ESP X4 0W-40
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Mobil 1 Supercar 0W-40 & 5W-50
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Quick question, I see that these oils have manufacturer approvals.
My lack of understanding is why are these manufacturers putting their stamp on these particular oils. Wouldn't any certified oil be sufficient?

My first thought is these manufacturers are using different bearing materials and require this particular oil? why doesn't Toyota fall into this bucket of detail with their oils.?

I understand some of these oils have different additives but why doesn't Toyota jump in for their engines?

It leads me to think that these particular engines that require certain grade additives are especially sensitive in the cam and piston rod bearing Department. Can anyone clarify this. Thanks in advance
 
Quick question, I see that these oils have manufacturer approvals.
My lack of understanding is why are these manufacturers putting their stamp on these particular oils. Wouldn't any certified oil be sufficient?

My first thought is these manufacturers are using different bearing materials and require this particular oil? why doesn't Toyota fall into this bucket of detail with their oils.?

I understand some of these oils have different additives but why doesn't Toyota jump in for their engines?

It leads me to think that these particular engines that require certain grade additives are especially sensitive in the cam and piston rod bearing Department. Can anyone clarify this. Thanks in advance
What are you asking? And how is it related to bearing materials? Materials compatibility is a minor aspect, most requirements are about wear and deposit formation since long-drain capability is a focus for European approvals.

If you want to see the specific requirements for many of the approvals you can download the Afton Specification Handbook, it is a bit out of date but you’ll get an idea. There’s a downloadable copy here on the site somewhere.
 
Quick question, I see that these oils have manufacturer approvals.
My lack of understanding is why are these manufacturers putting their stamp on these particular oils. Wouldn't any certified oil be sufficient?

My first thought is these manufacturers are using different bearing materials and require this particular oil? why doesn't Toyota fall into this bucket of detail with their oils.?

I understand some of these oils have different additives but why doesn't Toyota jump in for their engines?

It leads me to think that these particular engines that require certain grade additives are especially sensitive in the cam and piston rod bearing Department. Can anyone clarify this. Thanks in advance
Toyota is a member of the ILSAC committee, any and all ILSAC GF-6A/B labeled energy conserving lubricants** are considered "Genuine Toyota Engine Oil"
Motor oil sub-specification cannot not hurt or fix bearing inserts damaged by out of specification crankshaft machining/cleaning
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**0W-8 is JASO GLV-1 next gen FE lubricant
 
Quick question, I see that these oils have manufacturer approvals.
My lack of understanding is why are these manufacturers putting their stamp on these particular oils. Wouldn't any certified oil be sufficient?

My first thought is these manufacturers are using different bearing materials and require this particular oil? why doesn't Toyota fall into this bucket of detail with their oils.?

I understand some of these oils have different additives but why doesn't Toyota jump in for their engines?

It leads me to think that these particular engines that require certain grade additives are especially sensitive in the cam and piston rod bearing Department. Can anyone clarify this. Thanks in advance
What does "certified oil" mean? API, ILSAC, ACEA? Those are very broad and somewhat minimal standards.

There isn't much variance in bearing materials for modern engines. They're almost all using bi-metal aluminum bearings, some are adding coatings but I've never heard of this affecting oil selection. Race motors still use tri-metal lead/copper bearings but this is irrelevant to manufacturer requirements.

Car manufacturers each have their own targets in terms of efficiency, wear protection, and motor-specific issues like LSPI, timing chain wear, intake valve deposit buildup, etc.

Like kschachn said, a lot of these standards include things like oxidation requirements, deposit buildup because some of these manufacturers, particularly euro marques have requirements for supporting longer change intervals than you'd get with a basic ILSAC GF-6.

I'm not sure what "certain grade additives" means. Grades are a measure of viscosity, not additives. The main requirements surrounding additives are typically surrounding SAPS levels (sulfated ash, phosphorus, and sulfur) due to emissions and deposit buildup. But this is a percentage or ppm requirement, not a "grade."
 
Quick question, I see that these oils have manufacturer approvals.
My lack of understanding is why are these manufacturers putting their stamp on these particular oils. Wouldn't any certified oil be sufficient?

My first thought is these manufacturers are using different bearing materials and require this particular oil? why doesn't Toyota fall into this bucket of detail with their oils.?

I understand some of these oils have different additives but why doesn't Toyota jump in for their engines?

It leads me to think that these particular engines that require certain grade additives are especially sensitive in the cam and piston rod bearing Department. Can anyone clarify this. Thanks in advance
We went through this, IDK, 1537 times here on BITOG.
Toyota requires ILSAC oil, and it has been already explained above.
Toyota in other markets, where they offered more complex (turbo) engines (European market) required ACEA A3 and C3 oils.
The reason why Toyota does not (yet) require specific approvals is that it offered, for all intended purposes, obsolete engines that were not particularly demanding on oils.
However, considering issues with multiple engines they have currently, they might change this tune. The European approvals are a product of API not being stringent enough at the beginning of the 90s, when downsizing and turbo technology became normal there.
The approvals are geared mostly bcs. Germans develop engines based on their culture, which aims more at performance, not so much as having extension of your refrigerator with the steering wheel.
 
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