Industrial Society and It's Future

[fdcg27]

I like working in an office.
I enjoy the flirtatious women, I like my nice office/cave, and I enjoy crunching numbers.
OTOH, I also get satisfaction out of splitting wood, building a nice fire in the fireplace, and growing vegetables.
It does not have to be either/or.

 

[Gary Allan]

His manifesto, simply stated, says that we're not mature enough for our capabilities.

Our daily life clearly proves that this is true. We don't manage our knowledge and abilities along the lines of excellence in conduct. We don't manage our resources in truly sensible manners. We don't make the society wide/species wide benefit the main focus of our technological advancements.

We're way too clever for such a flawed animal. Far too self and collaterally destructive.

 

[LoneRanger]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
We need Soylent Green!


But: "Soylent Green.....is.........PEOPLE!..."

 

[fdcg27]

Some of us are not mature enough for our capabilities.
Others revel in the ease with which we can live, but do not lose sight of how grateful we should be for the good fortune we enjoy.
Self destrution, at the personal and community level comes from either a lack of long-term goals, or an excess of hubris, or some combination of the two.
I beleive that this starts at the individual level, and that it is silly to blame either "society" or "the system", since both are merely the aggregate of all of us as individuals.
As individuals, we can strive to do the right thing.
If enough people realize that what they choose to think and do really does determine the outcome, then maybe we can escape the fate that has ended societies existing long before ours.

 

[Shannow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oEEWqdgAF0&NR=1

 

[Gary Allan]

Good post. Food for thought.

Quote:
Self destrution, at the personal and community level comes from either a lack of long-term goals, or an excess of hubris, or some combination of the two.
I beleive that this starts at the individual level, and that it is silly to blame either "society" or "the system", since both are merely the aggregate of all of us as individuals.


"blaming" is inappropriate. It just is what it is ..and it is not working to the benefit of humankind. That clearly proves that however our contemporary civilization is developing, that knowledge and capability is outpacing wisdom. As a species, we have not learned from our mistakes beyond getting more clever at making newer and more improved mistakes.


That is what I believe the manifesto stated..and I think it's correct.

That doesn't mean that I in any way endorse his method of bring his view to the public arena. As we can see, he's ancient history to most people and just another kook who had his xx number of days of fame and folly ..and, like most, fade into non-consequence of merit.

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan


What we've done is made ambition not pay enough to trump the default ease of sleazing. Now your hard core types would want to make the floor drop out and make dire consequences the default condition, but it never occurred to make the floor fixed in some standard of excellence ..and make it totally on the plus side from there on out as one applied themselves to their fullest potential. Under their design, no matter how ambitious or resourceful, someone is always going to be in dire consequences. Luckily we have ample dullards and buffoons to be subjected to dire consequences.



what???

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: Loobed
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan


What we've done is made ambition not pay enough to trump the default ease of sleazing. Now your hard core types would want to make the floor drop out and make dire consequences the default condition, but it never occurred to make the floor fixed in some standard of excellence ..and make it totally on the plus side from there on out as one applied themselves to their fullest potential. Under their design, no matter how ambitious or resourceful, someone is always going to be in dire consequences. Luckily we have ample dullards and buffoons to be subjected to dire consequences.



what???



What don't you understand? Break it down line by line if you need to.

Essentially, give your kid a teaspoon and tell him he needs to move the mound of dirt a quarter mile to eat well, or hand him raw turnips for doing nothing. That's how challenging life is for some people and you wonder why they'll opt for raw turnips.


If everyone wanted to work for a living today, how many would be losers and deadbeats? Is everyone unemployed a loser or a deadbeat? If they were all Albert Einstein's ...which one would be sitting there as a pathetic loser that is being a useless eater?

Was that easier to understand? It comes down to how low you want your society to go. Those who are gifted and motivated will still be gifted and motivated. They will still be rewarded for ambition and achievements. I think that Albert Einstein would have done his research for nothing and many would have loved to have him freeload as their guest.