[snip] Some people perceive a controlling structure as mostly liberating; I happen to see it as mostly oppressive. This is partly due to differences in our personalities and tastes (not bad or good, just different). [end snip] Sorry, I don't buy it. If someone is the type of person that thinks supremely valid selfishness is justification for wanting somebody's purse and cause to take possession of it by hitting her over the head and taking it, well, that person probably will find our society opressive and not to his/her liking. To that, I say great. That type of society and individual is bad, period. It's not a matter of taste. [another snip] At least part of that sloppy, steaming load I shoveled into this forum .. [end snip] The chances are pretty good that's what a lot of us are thinking, but are too polite to just come out and say it. [snip]
Quote:Re-read how many times you used the word “rights” in your statement, and then look at where those words are positioned. I assure you that’s of significance. You have no “rights” to speak of unless other people agree you do. [snip] Of course it's significant, and rights was not a casual choice of words. And you are flatly incorrect when you say I have no rights unless other people agree that I do. My rights are inalienable and an endowment to me from my creator. I suggest reading the Unaninous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America, commonly known as the Declaration of Independence, the first fourteen or so amendments to the United States Constitution, and in my peculiar case, the Constitution of the State of Arkansas of 1874, particularly Article 2, and the amendments thereto. The use of the word rights in those documents is significant as well, and hardly casual. [last snip] One day someone is going to come along who has a full realization of what it really means for something to “belong” to you. You can kiss that object goodbye if you’re totally relying on the effectiveness of your indoctrination. [end snip] Ever hear of make my day laws and that second amendment thing? Another one or two of those pesky rghts.
The distinction is profound. Ownership is the full panorama of rights associated with property, including the right to delegate its possession, property of course including both the tangible as well as the intangible. Possession, or possessing, generally is something less than ownership, such as a qualified right in property, although some types of possession (there are many) may have many of the attributes of ownership.