I'm jumping on the thin bandwagon

[-Clayton-]

Well I'm taking the plunge, Gonna run havoline 5w20 in the van this winter. I use to run 10w40 in everything before I came here but now I'm convinced that 5w20 is the real deal and I figure since it does alot of short trips this will offer the best protection. Will probably run PPP or ST filter for the duration since I have them already. No i'm not gonna do a UOA though since it has 285k+ miles and that $20 could buy more oil and it's getting replaced soon anyway.

So tell me what you think guys, Bad idea or not?

 

[Blue99]

Well, one possible scenario is that at 285K miles, whatever engine is mounted in "the van", will have piston ring pack deposits and the 5W-20 will lead to elevated consumption from blow-by.

Why not click on the Castrol GTX Hi-Mileage oil banner at the top of this page & read about the benefits of 5w30 Hi-Mileage oil.

 

[Titan]

Try it, you'll probably like it! SM GF-4 5-20 oil IS the real deal. Worst case, it burns off a little...

 

[adam123]

You have the possibility of Higher Oil consumption I dont see anything past that tho.

 

[sxg6]

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You have the possibility of Higher Oil consumption I dont see anything past that tho.

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On a vehicle with that many miles, my only concern with switching to 5w-20 would be consumption.

 

[buster]

What took you so long?

 

[Patman]

I've mentioned on here a few times that I think 5w20 is the best choice for any vehicle which sees short trips. If your oil is only just barely getting up to operating temperature by the time you shut it down, it's best if that oil starts out much thinner to begin with, something the 5w20s definitely excel at.

And in the wintertime anyhow, you will see lower oil temps in just about any engine, so you could always safely go a little bit thinner. In the winter the cold start performance is obviously much more critical, and that's another area the 5w20s excel at.

 

[blupupher]

Well, If it is burning oil, you can always use Max Life 5w-20

 

[Steelhead]

a good cold temp winter start up oil will have a Vis@40C lower than 50 and a pour point below -50d C
a full PAO or ester based oil will easily meet these
0w20 in Mobil 1, Redline, Amsoil, Royal Purple GC or PP

if fuel dilution is a problem and requires frequent oil changes to manage, go with a 5w20 conventional such as Havoline, Chevron Supreme or Trop Artic and change every 1,500>2,000 miles

 

[Ron AKA]

I think in the conventionals Valvoline All-Climate is a bit better oil. And it is just as good as the more expensive synthetics. Check for yourself.

 

[G-MAN]

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I think in the conventionals Valvoline All-Climate is a bit better oil. And it is just as good as the more expensive synthetics. Check for yourself.

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[Oil Changer]

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I think in the conventionals Valvoline All-Climate is a bit better oil. And it is just as good as the more expensive synthetics. Check for yourself.

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I think as an administrator you should show a modicum of proffesionalism. I notice a lot of posts "crack you up". How about some constructive criticisum or stick to your policing duties. I for one appreciate Ron AKA's efforts, he obviously puts a lot of time, thought, and work into his posts and freely displays his work for all to use. If he errors, as we all know, he will be corrected.

 

[Blue99]

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think as an administrator you should show a modicum of proffesionalism

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I think G-Man is showing an incredible amount amount of restraint...

Instead of simply,

I would have added:

- Just my

 

[Blue99]

Seriously, what is on the Valvoline All-Climate 5W-20 data sheet that would generate the remark that All-Climate 5W-20 is on an equal level with synthetics?

 

[G-MAN]

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I think as an administrator you should show a modicum of proffesionalism.

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Thank you for your input.

One thing I've noticed on almost every online forum I participate on now, or in the past, is that once a person becomes a "Moderator" their level of participation usually drops, sometimes becoming virtually nill.

I was asked to help out as an Admin. If I thought for one minute that being an Admin on here meant I had to post less, or post differently from how I've always posted, I'd give it up before you can say "crack me up."

In other words, just because I'm now an Admin, don't expect me to pull any punches. If my posts offend some sense of "professionalism" you have, please accept this as a blanket apology to cover all future offenses--of which there will no doubt be many.

 

[dave1251]

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Loc: U.S.A. Re: I'm jumping on the thin bandwagon [Re: G-MAN]
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I think as an administrator you should show a modicum of proffesionalism. I notice a lot of posts "crack you up". How about some constructive criticisum or stick to your policing duties. I for one appreciate Ron AKA's efforts, he obviously puts a lot of time, thought, and work into his posts and freely displays his work for all to use. If he errors, as we all know, he will be corrected.

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Ok I will say it. Ron has gone to great lenghts with his paperwork. But its just paper specs. IMHO valvoline is the least preforming major brand oil on market.

 

[Oil Changer]

In other words, just because I'm now an Admin, don't expect me to pull any punches. If my posts offend some sense of "professionalism" you have, please accept this as a blanket apology to cover all future offenses--of which there will no doubt be many.

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Then I have no respect for you, your posts, or your authority on this forum.

 

[JerryS]

I'll take a professional who can laugh, shoot from the hip a little and still get his work done over a staunch taskmaster any day. [Wait, uhh... not in all circumstances; I'm only behind that statement with about 75% enthusiasm. Maybe less. Internet moderators can screw around some though for sure. I'm not good with maxims.]

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Then I have no respect for you, your posts, or your authority on this forum.

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And I have no respect for malicious thread hijackers. Don't be such a turd Oil Changer.

A...N...Y...W...AAAAAAY, all other things being equal, if the van in question belonged to yours truly, I would feel more comfortable trying a 5w40, 10w30 or a thick 5w30 before jumping all the way down the ladder. 5w20 is the "real deal", but it should be used prudently (IMO). What is/was the manufacturer’s recommended viscosity for your van anyway? Engine specifications? Driving habits? Performance issues? How much (if any) oil is it burning with the 10w40? Climate? etc. etc. etc. etc. etc... all of these variables (and a lot more) would impact the outcome of a recommendation that would be of any use to you.

 

[Nickdfresh]

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I think as an administrator you should show a modicum of proffesionalism.

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Thank you for your input.

One thing I've noticed on almost every online forum I participate on now, or in the past, is that once a person becomes a "Moderator" their level of participation usually drops, sometimes becoming virtually nill.

I was asked to help out as an Admin. If I thought for one minute that being an Admin on here meant I had to post less, or post differently from how I've always posted, I'd give it up before you can say "crack me up."

In other words, just because I'm now an Admin, don't expect me to pull any punches. If my posts offend some sense of "professionalism" you have, please accept this as a blanket apology to cover all future offenses--of which there will no doubt be many.

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Exactly!

Cheers!

 

[Nickdfresh]

5W-20 is a great oil Clayton --for the newer vehicles with tighter tolerances it is spec'd or back-spec'd for. If I were you, I'd split the difference from what you've been using, and what you were thinking of using, and go with what I presume is your manufacturer's recommendation: a quality 5w30. Better yet, a HM 5w30. I like Valvoline's Maxlife for this, even if I am not overly impressed with their conventional oil.