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Originally posted by mossad:
Bill in Utah,
Can you or anyone really refute the fact that my engine will be better protected using synthetic on those 20 degree days when my wife drives that lumber box to the school 1 mile away, shuts it off, then drives it home the 1 mile to be shut off again? Wouldn't you rather have a syntheic under those horrid driving conditions?
To be honest, I'd rather run a good CLEAN oil and change it more often since its a
fact that short runs of a engine puts a lot of garbage into the sump.
So, what I'd want is to change the oil more often and get the crud out.
As far as 20 degrees, not a problem. I operate my engines in temps lower than that every day from Late OCT till March.
My Truck does the same service most of the time. I drive the gas saver and she drives the truck. It's less than 1 mile to the kids class, sits there for 1 hour then back home.
Then next day it's 5 miles to the kids music lesson. Sits there for 30 mins and back home.
Then it will sit for 1-2 days with nothing.
I will drive it to work here and there just to get it on the road.
I had to take the valve cover off and it was spotless. I run 49 cent a quart Chevron or 69 cent a quart Pennzoil but change it often.
Syn is not going to protect any better. Syn sitting in the crankcase with more by products longer is not good.
Syn is good when you have engines that run for miles at a time and you let the oil/engine burn off alot of the bad stuff. Then you run the oil longer because it's able to.
So, in your car, I'd look for a good oil (esp on sale
) like Pennzoil, Halovine, Chevron, QS, Castrol Gtx, etc and change it more often.
That will make sure your getting protection for your engine.
Doing the same with syn will work too. But, your not getting any more protection.
I don't own a single stock of anything and am not here selling a thing. I'm not gaining a thing.
I'm here to share!
But, It's my mindset that we hopefully are here to get the most out of our $$. So to me, that means how to make our cars run longer than most on the least amount of $$.
Again, TO ME.. thats getting the most out of my gas $$, my oil $$ and all the $$ I have to spend out on a car/truck.
I drive more than the average guy. Last night was my last day at my old job which I had for 15 years. 63 miles a day one way. 126 miles round trip.
(So if I don't look at the times I've had to work more than my 4 days a week and the trips to go to meetings. My mileage JUST to work over 15 years has been only 378,000 miles!)
(my new job is only 50 miles one way!
(5000 less miles per year!)
I've run the different oils. I've kept track of MPG in many different cars/trucks. I've done the UOAs. I've put the miles on the engines and seen how much maintenance they need and what problems came up (not many).
I'm not here to post false things. I'm here to just show what has worked for me for many years on many outfits.
I've had a open mind and run Syn. In different engines. Done the UOAs. Kept track of the MPG. My commute is the same every day. No traffic issues. So if I get xx MPG with this oil and xx mpg with the other, it's the same running conditions. Not just a feeling or single trip.
In the end after looking at the UOAs, looking at MPG, looking at how the engine is running and how long the engines last, I keep and contiune to run Conventional oil. For me, it's working.
Really, if you feel better with running syn, great. Having a clear mind is worth $omething!
But, for the others reading this, you don't have to run syn for long life of the engine unless your engine needs it.
Built high horsepower motors, yep syn.
Turbos, I would.
But if we checked the manual of 95% of the engines out there, good oil
CHANGED is excellent protection.
When the oil is $10(or less) for 5 quarts, you can change it when it's time and not worry.
In your car with the short trips. I'd change it often.
With ANY oil!
Take care, bill
