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How Many Here Are Turned Off By Electric Vehicles ?
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I have driven my neighbors Prius [ I know hybrid] and it is rather amazing. On battery mode is an electric . What bothers me is the mfgs make them look like an electric car . I would myself prefer a gas looking car but then cars these day are rather hideous looking. Tesla cars look sharp and the pics of the Ford electric pick ups look great.
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The experience. I rented one (Dual Motor Model 3) back on Easter weekend. The acceleration takes your breath away. It scared my wife. From the passenger seat - "ok...ok...ok....STOP!!!".
I don't care about any of the tree hugging aspect of it, good or bad. I'd love to have one due to the way the car reacts when you floor it. I've never experienced anything like it. At any speed, if you plant your foot...it goes.
If you have an open mind and would enjoy the experience I described above, I'd definitely recommend taking one for a spin sometime.
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They work fine, generally, as long as you aren't trying to make crazy commutes. I know two people that drive Tesla's year round and they have no winter issues, even driving into the GTA.
They are now required to make noises.... of course with a COVID extension...
https://www.greencarreports.com/new...uiet car,warning to pedestrians and cyclists.
Huh?
I'm sure they go like hell. But for most they're not practical. Too expensive for what they offer compared to gas. Limited range. No towing ability. Too much downtime recharging. But for an urban grocery getter, or Jay Leno, they're tailor made.The experience. I rented one (Dual Motor Model 3) back on Easter weekend. The acceleration takes your breath away. It scared my wife. From the passenger seat - "ok...ok...ok....STOP!!!".
I don't care about any of the tree hugging aspect of it, good or bad. I'd love to have one due to the way the car reacts when you floor it. I've never experienced anything like it. At any speed, if you plant your foot...it goes.
If you have an open mind and would enjoy the experience I described above, I'd definitely recommend taking one for a spin sometime.
The other down side is that when half of the households in the country have one plugged in most of the time and the predictable national electrical shortages ensue, everyone gets to pay the supply/demand curve.
If everyone in California had one plugged in, the entire power grid would collapse.
I usually ask those people to be a part of the solution rather that part of the cause and leave the surface of the Earth. The look they give you is wonderful.
Boy, this thread sure got legs fast!
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It's not just EV's though. "Electrify everything" means heat too, for both HVAC and hot water. These are the two largest consumers of natural gas in Ontario for example. You need a very reliable and robust grid and generation infrastructure to facilitate this in areas that see real winter.
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All these people say: "I'd like to see you drive it 500 miles on a single charge and fill up in 5 minutes". "It can't tow a big heavy trailer". Etc
Who is expecting them too? How often does the average American drive 500 miles in a day? Probably once a year on a long weekend to see family for some occasion and again for a family vacation. So take the other car. Why do you have to only have an electric car? Most households have multiple cars.
People also spout off about it being not environmentally clean to mine the resources needed to manufacture them, and for the electricity to charge them. That's 100% true, but statistics show that the break even point is around 30k miles, or 50k miles (I can't remember).
Its called progress, and at least they're trying. No, this entire country isn't going to switch to electric cars. That's ridiculous. Thats just living in fantasy-land.
I don't think fully electric cars are the answer for the world's problems, but they work for some people. If you don't want one, don't buy one.
There will probably be issues with the electric grid with more electric cars charging. But why are the utilities just sitting around doing nothing to upgrade their infrastructure? They make $$$ by the kWh, charging electric cars means they'll make more money, so improve the power grid.
Who is expecting them too? How often does the average American drive 500 miles in a day? Probably once a year on a long weekend to see family for some occasion and again for a family vacation. So take the other car. Why do you have to only have an electric car? Most households have multiple cars.
People also spout off about it being not environmentally clean to mine the resources needed to manufacture them, and for the electricity to charge them. That's 100% true, but statistics show that the break even point is around 30k miles, or 50k miles (I can't remember).
Its called progress, and at least they're trying. No, this entire country isn't going to switch to electric cars. That's ridiculous. Thats just living in fantasy-land.
I don't think fully electric cars are the answer for the world's problems, but they work for some people. If you don't want one, don't buy one.
There will probably be issues with the electric grid with more electric cars charging. But why are the utilities just sitting around doing nothing to upgrade their infrastructure? They make $$$ by the kWh, charging electric cars means they'll make more money, so improve the power grid.
Reports from Canadian owners do indicate that things will go haywire under about -20°C. They're certainly not ideal for every use but perhaps those requirements need to be tailored back as well? No one is forcing anyone into EVs but every kilogram of fossil-based CO2 emitted has a price and we will all suffer the consequences of not reducing that quickly.
That's almost one third again as much. And the power grid is strained now.
Britain has banned gas/diesel light vehicles by 2030, and hybrids by 2035. How is that NOT forcing people into EVs?
That's a very surprising conclusion. I suppose there's no political agenda behind such numbers, b/c the global warming crowd would never cook the books or lie or falsify information or exaggerate?!
As to the OP, I'm genuinely interested and excited in the baseline efficiency and the technology. What concerns me is the layers upon layers of propaganda, lies, the propping up of EV industry with favorable laws and handout subsidies. Being lied to to promote a "environmentally friendly" technology that is nothing of the sort. The dishonesty is a real putoff.
I'm not at all thrilled about the big nannystate tracking technologies and the bloatware tech these certainly have. I am not at all excited by the fact nobody will know how to fix them when they break, and fixing them is reportedly a nightmare, and parts compatibility issues.
I see EVs as fantastic for the rich who have minimal commuting. They just are not affordable nor particular practical for probably 75%. If you live in an apartment it won't work. If you live in a rural community, it also won't work well.
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