How many different filter makers?

[Patman]

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Originally posted by Toy4x4:
OneQuartLow,
From what I've read on other threads, Fram is a maker not use for quality reasons.

"Over the long haul I'd be worried, but since the first filter gets changed out within 1000 miles it shouldn't matter."
I'm sorry, but I don't understand this part. Could you explain, please?

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I think what he's saying is that since he'll only have that filter on there for 1000 miles, and then will be switching to a better one, it won't do any harm for such a short time. But if he were to run that filter for every oil change, in the long run it would be a problem.

 

[OneQuartLow]

Patman, how about if I just send my posts to you for editing/round-filing?

Toy4x4, yep, that's all I meant. I look at the first oil and filter change (or two) as break-in equipment. I wouldn't buy Fram given the choice but I doubt the difference would be measurable over so short a time.

David

 

[Spector]

Hastings exists as a name only. When they were bought out the new owner wanted to capitalize on their quality brand name so kept the name as a marketing brand. In reality, Amsoil and Hastings filters are made at the same plant in Nebraska by Baldwin or Whatever the new owners name is. Amsoil, of course, claims that their filters are higher quality however, those that have cut them open swear they are idendical. I have never cut open both so it is hearsay. Hastings are significantly less expensive though.

 

[The_Oz]

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Originally posted by OneQuartLow:

Call this Dana Wix rep in Ontario:

http://www.clubbooster.com/danacanadainc_wix_carquestdedicated_.htm

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OneQuart,

Thanks for the tip. I'll contact him when I get the chance. It may be that the store owners don't know jack...which is very apparent here in more cases than one. If that is the case, then I think I'll be heading to Carquest for my filters.

Thanks,

Oz

 

[Toy4x4]

Just got off a Toyota 4x4 site. I asked who made the US Toyota filter and it is Purolator, not Fram. I guess it is Fram who filters for Toyota in Canada according the post from The-Oz...
"I believe Honda Canada, Mazda Canada, and Toyota Canada OEM filters are all made by Fram/Honeywell."

Had nightmares about hundreds of bright, orange, parts boxes chasing me!

 

[frenchnew]

I can tell you that this is not entirely 100% accurate.

Hastings Filters has alot more Car & Light Truck filter application then Baldwin Filters has.

Some of the Baldwin Filters even though they will fit a car or light truck engine, were designed to protect an engine in severe applications.

It is true that Hastings Filters & Baldwin Filters share manufacturing facilities and that Baldwin Filters engineering department is the one controlling both.

Wether they are going to have the exact same products with the only difference being in paint & name across their offering in the near future is something for their president to decide on.

Best regards from Montreal, Canada

Rob

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Originally posted by Spector:
Hastings exists as a name only. When they were bought out the new owner wanted to capitalize on their quality brand name so kept the name as a marketing brand. In reality, Amsoil and Hastings filters are made at the same plant in Nebraska by Baldwin or Whatever the new owners name is. Amsoil, of course, claims that their filters are higher quality however, those that have cut them open swear they are idendical. I have never cut open both so it is hearsay. Hastings are significantly less expensive though.

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[Toy4x4]

OneQuartLow,
Ahhh, now I see. That's why I lost the meaning of the post. I have 114K on truck. (What's break-in again?

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[M Smith]

Over the years on various forums I've read references to Mann filters. Seems the consensus is they're very well made German filters. Where can I get one, especially in the south? Do they mfg. filters for non-OEM applications, ie. for the retail market?

 

[The_Oz]

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Originally posted by M Smith:
Over the years on various forums I've read references to Mann filters. Seems the consensus is they're very well made German filters. Where can I get one, especially in the south? Do they mfg. filters for non-OEM applications, ie. for the retail market?

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M Smith,

As far as I know, Mann filters are exclusive only to Volkswagens and other German-made vehicles (possibly Audi and Mercedes). So, unless you have a German car or one of their filters can fit in yours, then you're hooped.

Regards,

Oz

 

[Oleumus]

M Smith,

There is on-line Mann filter catalog for cars available for sale in Europe Mann Online Catalog

Also, today I have ordered Automotive Filter Catalog for Passenger Cars from Mann-Hummel Automotive Usa Automotive Aftermarket/MANN-FILTER.

I let you know when I receive it. So I can look up Mann filters for you guys

 

[Eiron]

M, several of the local indie Saab garages use Mann filters. They claim that the Manns were OEM before GM decided to invest. New Saabs use the ACDelco PF-53 (UK version only) & I've noticed that the Mann filter is smaller (definitely shorter, don't remember about diameter). They recommended getting them at import-auto-parts stores. When I asked why they used them, one shop declared, "'Cuz they're smaller & they filter better!" Not impossible, I suppose. Another shop was less emphatic but more convincing, saying that they get better per-case pricing with Mann than with ACDelco. The cross number is W712/38.

 

[bubba]

toyota dealer told me toy. oil filters are the same a pur.1 filters in the u.s.. the one i cut apart sure was the same as pur 1

 

[dragboat]

Just found out that Wix filters can be found with the Phillips Trop Artic labeling for those that like the Wix at a lesser price

 

[Greg]

found Wix filters labeled as Verdic in Napa here... I emailed them and this is what they had to say,

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The biggest difference is in the quality and quantity of the media which
determines the capacity and efficiency of the filter. Also, the premium
line contains an upfront by-pass valve versus a button valve in the short
line and a silicone anti-drainback valve versus nitrile rubber in the short
line.

Thanks again for your inquiry.

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also found "Auto Extra" which appears to be the same thing. however the Wixes were mixed about among the private label brands and looked identical when looking inside

 

[SteveD2]

Here's a source for Mann filters for lots of European brands--and Japanese filters for Japanese cars:
http://www.nobleforeign.com

Ken

 

[SteveD2]

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Originally posted by Toy4x4:
Fram makes Toyota oil filters???!!!!
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Depending on the model, lots of Toyota filters are made by Denso, either in Japan or in the US. I don't think ANYBODY has seen a Toyota filter made by Fram...just another urban legend.

Ken

 

[occimacinance]

Mann online catalogue does offer a filter for GM 2.8 V6 vin:B. Which supposed to use ACDelco PF47 or (PF1225). But it says "no equivalent for PF47 ACDelco- Delphi" on the cross reference...

Hmmm... strange... to use or not to use. They are cheaper here than the ACs.