From my reading Holden had a deal with GM that every so often GM had to rebadge a Holden vehicle. The Pontiac gto was a Holden Manaro.Nice Holden Commodore
From my reading Holden had a deal with GM that every so often GM had to rebadge a Holden vehicle. The Pontiac gto was a Holden Manaro.Nice Holden Commodore
From the reports Holden wasn't selling enough vehicles to keep them viable. I thought this was odd as why couldn't they build and export vehicles to other markets?There was quite a visceral period of national mourning when Holden was axed. Quite bizarre for a nation to be so upset by the loss of a car company.
I've never heard that...I know that Bob Lutz went to great pains to get us here in the USA the Holden Monaro (2004-2006 GTO) and the Holden Commodore (SS sedan) and to a lesser extent the Caprice PPVFrom my reading Holden had a deal with GM that every so often GM had to rebadge a Holden vehicle. The Pontiac gto was a Holden Manaro.
Are there other 415 HP V8 manual transmission performance sedans available for less money these days?Always wanted one. But, these fetch $30k - $40k in my area. Which is too ridiculous to entertain.
Are there other 415 HP V8 manual transmission performance sedans available for less money these days?
Of course, you use to be able to buy a good condition one some years ago for about $5-6K and work on it. Now, you can't find a good one for less than $15k, which is a good thing, if you think about it, since it will keep kids/destroyers-of-great-cars from buying them and making them move on to destroying other cars like the Infiniti g35/37, leaving these in the hands of collectors who preserve them.
SS, G8 are basically based on BMW E39. GM used E39 as a benchmark. GM had fleet of E39's as comparisons. It is still practice for companies to buy used E39 and test it in the development of new vehicles. Even BMW could not truly replicate the suspension of that model.Really nice cars, but 20 years older than the SS sedans and lacking HUD, adjustable suspension and adjustable exhaust.
Here is a good sample of them…$12,000 to $23,000. Only 2 under $15,000
BMW 540i - E34 Market - CLASSIC.COM
There are 2 BMW 540i - E34 for sale right now - Follow the Market and get notified with new listings and sale prices.www.classic.com
Cadillac did the same with the ATS using the BMW E46, specifically, as the inspiration and benchmark, though BMW was already on the next generation 3-series. It was all about the dynamics but you can also see it in the ATS length, width, height, weight, wheelbase, etc. all within a hair.
I think that touch control, slide-your-finger garbage on the interior that Cadillac uses stinks. I hate it. I think it's dangerous too. I prefer rotary knobs, push buttons and switches.(especially the type/style Ferrari uses)
Very nice, we also have a jungle green wagon. Not an SS though. I spend enough keeping the 3.6 fed.We have the Holden version. 2016 Commodore SSV Redline. We’ve had it since new, about 60k miles
That is a sharp looking car! So is the Commodore.The 2014-2017 Chevrolet SS Sedans only came with a 6.2 LS3. This was its own model and not related to any other GM vehicle with a SS package.
I don’t think you’re going to find any bargains on these. They were not produced in big numbers. Retired law enforcement units are hard to find. I saw a state trooper in one last summer (2023) and asked how he managed to still have it. He doesn’t want to give it up. Try to find a G8, forgot what they call the V8 model. IMHO These are nice cars.Chevrolet SS
The Chevy SS is the most recently departed car on this list, but enough time has past to make it a used bargain. When it was still being sold, we objected to the use of SS as the model name rather than a trim, thinking GM could have come up with something more interesting. Still, the name doesn't detract from it greatness. All cars came powered by a 6.2-liter V8 producing 415 horsepower going out to the rear wheels. The later manual transmission cars are more desirable and more expensive, but 2014 and 2015 automatic models can be found starting in the $25,000 to $30,000 range with well under 100,000 miles on the clock."
Wanted one, never bought one.
Holden *IS* part of GM, and has been since 1931.From my reading Holden had a deal with GM that every so often GM had to rebadge a Holden vehicle. The Pontiac gto was a Holden Manaro.
Yeah, that was copied from an older website, so there was likely a "sweet spot" for finding one at a reasonable price.I don’t think you’re going to find any bargains on these. They were not produced in big numbers. Retired law enforcement units are hard to find. I saw a state trooper in one last summer (2023) and asked how he managed to still have it. He doesn’t want to give it up. Try to find a G8, forgot what they call the V8 model. IMHO These are nice cars.
Holden is out of production. Ford too. The whole industry in Australia is over.Holden *IS* part of GM, and has been since 1931.
Rebadging a Holden as a Pontiac or Chevrolet is no different than rebadging an Oldsmobile as a Buick or a Saturn as an Opel.
Exactly. Preferable is what sells and the SS did not sell well. My local Chevy dealer had an SS or two and deeply discounted them to get them sold. They got really popular once they sold out. People are strange.GM went with the division that would bring them the highest return...Buick in China...sad to see Pontiac and Holden go as I've had cars from both divisions...
Bill