Honda Owners: Baldwin B7318 anyone?

I used to use that old giant 3950 sized one on my J's, Just use the 3593a sized one now.

Too long and you might run the risk of the LCA running into it on certain cars, although you'd probably really have to work at that.
 
Years ago when looking for Toyota alternative, I found Hastings to be low end jobber quality where sold by Federated AP.

I do have a Baldwin number B1431 as a LONG Subaru/Mitsu/Honda/Hyundai/Nissan alternative I never followed up on.

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re: B7318 9 micron nominal ! You sure this isn't a Hydraulic system filter?! I think the app is Volvo Excavator
I would not put that on my car.
 
Years ago when looking for Toyota alternative, I found Hastings to be low end jobber quality where sold by Federated AP.

I do have a Baldwin number B1431 as a LONG Subaru/Mitsu/Honda/Hyundai/Nissan alternative I never followed up on.

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I see Baldwin filters on a lot of heavy commercial equipment where the engines cost $500k or more. It may be that they do not have the latest media, but they do have a very good reputation in industrial applications where downtime is expensive and the equipment is very expensive.

Also, USA made by the subsidiary of a massive player in the fluid power industry-- Parker Hannifin.

It may be that they are "cheap, jobber grade" filters, but given the country of origin, the reputation of the parent company, and the prominence of both in their markets, I'd suggest they deserve they benefit of the doubt.
 
Whip City cut one open

Looks okay, but it only has 70 square inches of filter media. Most 7317 filters would have somewhere between 80 and 150 in^2.

If you want more filter media, check out Full (M-pleats) or Purflux (zigzag pleats)

Napa stopped selling the Full in the US, but they still sell it in Canada. Full 2-OHD004

Sometimes it's possible to get the Purflux LS350 in the US or Canada. It is also the OE Honda filter in Europe.
 
Yes, it's a lube filter:


Hydraulic filters rarely have bypasses (because there's an existing bypass else where in the system) and nor do they have ADBV.
Given the 2x higher than Honda spec bypass and the suspect low nominal micron rating I would not run that filter - unless it uses specialized synthetic multilayer media to achieve high efficiency. Then again, maybe the nominal rating can be largely ignored
 
Given the 2x higher than Honda spec bypass and the suspect low nominal micron rating I would not run that filter - unless it uses specialized synthetic multilayer media to achieve high efficiency. Then again, maybe the nominal rating can be largely ignored

I've taken your advice and cancelled the order after doing more research. The filter is used primarily on a Volvo EC25/EC30 mini-excavator with a tiny 1.3L Mitsubishi 3cyl diesel. While the filter is physically larger, it seems to be designed for my lower flow rates (given the small engine size its on) and it seems possible that the higher bypass setting could actually matter if the filter is restrictive at the presumably higher flow rates of my J35.

Larger can size unfortunately doesn't mean more actual filter.
 
I've taken your advice and cancelled the order after doing more research. The filter is used primarily on a Volvo EC25/EC30 mini-excavator with a tiny 1.3L Mitsubishi 3cyl diesel. While the filter is physically larger, it seems to be designed for my lower flow rates (given the small engine size its on) and it seems possible that the higher bypass setting could actually matter if the filter is restrictive at the presumably higher flow rates of my J35.

Larger can size unfortunately doesn't mean more actual filter.
Can you fit the 4" long Baldwin I posted in post #7 ?
 
Can you fit the 4" long Baldwin I posted in post #7 ?
I’m sure I can, it’s only about 1/2” longer than the regular x7317. That filter was going to be my first one to try, but since it’s only nominally efficient (50%) at 25 microns, I sort of moved on. I can get better efficiency in a regular filter.
 
I see Baldwin filters on a lot of heavy commercial equipment where the engines cost $500k or more. It may be that they do not have the latest media, but they do have a very good reputation in industrial applications where downtime is expensive and the equipment is very expensive.

Also, USA made by the subsidiary of a massive player in the fluid power industry-- Parker Hannifin.

It may be that they are "cheap, jobber grade" filters, but given the country of origin, the reputation of the parent company, and the prominence of both in their markets, I'd suggest they deserve they benefit of the doubt.
I use Baldwin Filters exclusively on all the race engines I build. Some are 900hp Sprint Car engines on methanol. I use the B279 that is designed for high flow (perfect for dry sump applications!)

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Given the 2x higher than Honda spec bypass and the suspect low nominal micron rating I would not run that filter - unless it uses specialized synthetic multilayer media to achieve high efficiency. Then again, maybe the nominal rating can be largely ignored
I wanted to bump this thread to give a respectful acknowledgement to @ARCOgraphite who wisely said not to run the filter. His gut feeling was correct.

The order showed up anyway and I figured it's worth a short run since I'm doing this Valvoline Restore and Protect cleaning cycle. And WCW had cut one open and I figured it can't be too bad, right?

I noticed much longer startup oil pressure delay when using this filter. Instead of the oil pressure light going off essentially instantly (as it typical for Honda), I would notice it would stay lit for a full second or so after starting. Never any weird sounds or anything you'd panic about, but it was noticeable and repeatable. I have to wonder if the filter was going into bypass (and it does have a bypass set point nearly twice as high as stock.)

When I removed the B7318 after 800 miles, the replacement BOSS filter went back to near-instant oil pressure (light going out while cranking).

The Baldwin media was not absorbing or retaining much of anything. Keep in mind this filter had 800 miles on it and the Valvoline Restore and Protect was freshly filled when it went on.

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This is quite the striking contrast to the M1-110 that I had on just before this. While the media of the M1 was full of crud to half the pleat depth, there was NOTHING in the bottom of the can-- it was shiny clean.

So, if you're curious like I was about a finer-filtration filter for Hondas, DO NOT USE THIS BALDWIN B7318. It is much too restrictive with just paper thick media and not much of it (low pleat count).

It is designed for really small engines with very low oil flow and not at all appropriate for a PCMO Honda application.
 
Slightly longer than the normal x7317 filter.

27 micron absolute, 9 micron nominal. U.S.A.-made.

I have some on order. Could be perfect for older J35s with vertical filter mounts. Probably won’t fit my angled k20c4.
Really nice find. Thanks. Would they fit on 2005-2007 Honda Odysseys?
 
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