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[aquariuscsm]

Can't own a yellow or orange car or any pickup.

Man it would be classic to see a wave of bro-dozers go tearing through that hoa!

 

[alarmguy]

https://www.local10.com/news/local/...-homeowners-100000-pickup-truck-out-of-sight/

He lived there for 27 years and he didnt know you cant park a truck outside your home?
Not that it matters but Im not sure if a country club is the same as an HOA, it could be but they seem to be even more restrictive, meaning it maybe a private entity. The media loves it when someone doesnt want to follow the rules. Because we all just eat it up Ratings!

"The country club has strict rules for trucks, trailers, RV’s and commercial vehicles, set by Arvida, which developed Weston back in the 1980s"

 

[GON]

He lived there for 27 years and he didnt know you cant park a truck outside your home?
Not that it matters but Im not sure if a country club is the same as an HOA, it could be but they seem to be even more restrictive, meaning it maybe a private entity.

"The country club has strict rules for trucks, trailers, RV’s and commercial vehicles, set by Arvida, which developed Weston back in the 1980s"

One wants the benefits of a HOA, primarily restrictions on noise, and most importantly increased property values. and the ability to sell their home without a GON living next door rebuilding cars, trucks, and SUVs all day and night. Nobody likes the early rising next-door neighbor with the air driven impact gun running all day and night.

Now the guy complains because he doesn't want the rules that have benefited him- applied to him. The situation is easy- don't like the rules, sell and move. Or in his case, simply clean up the clutter in his garage and park his Rivian in the garage,

 

[John Galt]

He lived there for 27 years and he didnt know you cant park a truck outside your home?
Not that it matters but Im not sure if a country club is the same as an HOA, it could be but they seem to be even more restrictive, meaning it maybe a private entity.

"The country club has strict rules for trucks, trailers, RV’s and commercial vehicles, set by Arvida, which developed Weston back in the 1980s"

I agree that he should have known. But the category of what constitutes a truck varies. Let me phrase the question this way: is a full size Chevy Suburban a truck? The folks who test vehicles for safety say it is a truck and so do many state licensing DMV’s. But the soccer mom says it isn’t a truck when she drives one and so I’ll bet in most HOA’s, with truck restrictions, that Chevy Suburbans (and the like) are just fine. It is mostly a matter of perspective.

Maybe just put a cap on the bed of the Rivian and call it a Rivurban ?

 

[alarmguy]

I agree that he should have known. But the category of what constitutes a truck varies. Let me phrase the question this way: is a full size Chevy Suburban a truck? The folks who test vehicles for safety say it is a truck and so do many state licensing DMV’s. But the soccer mom says it isn’t a truck when she drives one and so I’ll bet in most HOA’s, with truck restrictions, that Chevy Suburbans (and the like) are just fine. It is mostly a matter of perspective.

Maybe just put a cap on the bed of the Rivan and call it a Rivurban ?

I agree but the only perspective that matters is the Country Club perspective and there is no denying it's classified as a pick up truck and a Suburban as an SUV.
Maybe a Rivurban would work

 

[IndyIan]

An HOA is no different than any other form of governing body. It has pros and cons. It's a tool that can either be used properly or abused.

We used to live on acreage in a rural, unincorporated area with no HOA. The various neighbors we lived (survived) through were some of the most atrocious folks around. We had both good and bad neighbors in the 16 years we lived there. Without an HOA, there's no limit to the stupidity of actions at any time, day or night. I'm pro-gun, but we don't want to hear shotguns errantly going off at 11pm on a Tuesday school-night for no reason other than those folks were drunk and stupid. Or the UTV blasting up and down the shared gravel easement; tearing up the driveway by doing donuts and slinging gravel into the grass. Or having parties on weeknights because someone was just fired and they needed to blow off steam, blasting Bocephus throught their crackling walmart speakers in the back of their truck bed. Or their near-ferral dogs running loose, chasing my wife and kids, and getting into our trash. Or burning refuse and asphalt shingles when the wind is blowing towards our house. I could go on and on ...

We moved to a neighborhood with an HOA on purpose. It is NOT an overbearing HOA. Our HOA holds the residents accountable for:
- construction standards of housing, size of barns, etc; helps to keep the home values up
- asthetic and maintenance standards; again - keeps the 'hood from looking like a dump and therefore keeps home values up (no cars on blocks in the yard for example)
- standards of conduct outside the home; keeps noise pollution to a minimum - no loud parties, guns blazing, or ATVs tearing about
Our HOA governing documents are not overwhelming; about 8 pages total for the C&Rs. While that may seem like a lot, consider that the HOA directly next to us has 67 (sixty-seven!) pages of governance. That kind of puts us in a better perspective of "moderate" rules. Our HOA does not micro-manage. Further, our annual dues are only $250, because we're small, and we have no shared ammenities other than the private gravel road we manage cooperatively (we have no clubhouse, no pool, no tennis courts).

Here's the most important thing to understand about living in an HOA ... IT'S A CHOICE! For us, it was the right choice. It won't be the right choice for everyone. IT's OK to be different. It's also OK to conform. If you live in an HOA, the amount of expected conformity will vary with the HOA. NOT ALL HOAs ARE EVIL. Some folks would say that HOAs are stupid or unnecessary. That's easy to say when you've never lived next door to horrible neighbors and had them disrupt nearly every aspect of your life.

The shared driveway easement is always a bit or a risk, but isn't the rest of the neighbor problems a by-law enforcement issue? Every single problem you listed is covered under the by-laws of most municipalities? Our municipality seems to be pretty effective in managing most neighbor problems that I've heard of, and shoot, shovel, and shut up, takes care of the free running dogs.
I guess being in an HOA is a good filter to keep the "freedom with no responsibilities" folks away to start with, which can easily be worth $250!

 

[Donald]

Come on, tell us who is your favorite dictator?
Kidding, but I sure hope you don’t become one and that you will lead this HOA with some common sense.

Well most of the homeowners just want an attractive community to live in and see their property values maintained.

One or two complain but never show up to meetings.

The biggest issue is Delaware is flat. There is water in swales after a heavy rain. It eventually goes away. Proper slope for grass swale is 2% meaning 2 feet slope per 100 linear feet. We would be lucky to get 2 inches per hundred feet. Storm retention pond is too small and people want it filled with water and a fountain rather than an ugly empty pond. So water storage capacity is limited.

I guess I will know how big a mess I got myself into in 6 months.

 

[64bawagon]

In MI the main reason for HOA's is so the local municipality wont have to deal with code enforcement and the county wont have to build and maintain the roads. Its a win/win for the Government. Unfortunately one sociopath with unlimited time on their hands is all it takes on the board. Add to that a few sycophantic appeasers and you have an illegitimate board with no properly elected members that dont know how to run a meeting or conduct a legal board. Unless you have thousands upon thousands for lawyers to litigate it your only choice is to move. Sounds fair ?
Just like everything else in this world it gets all mucked up by a few humans.

 

[aquariuscsm]

I agree that he should have known. But the category of what constitutes a truck varies. Let me phrase the question this way: is a full size Chevy Suburban a truck? The folks who test vehicles for safety say it is a truck and so do many state licensing DMV’s. But the soccer mom says it isn’t a truck when she drives one and so I’ll bet in most HOA’s, with truck restrictions, that Chevy Suburbans (and the like) are just fine. It is mostly a matter of perspective.

Maybe just put a cap on the bed of the Rivian and call it a Rivurban ?

Yep. The Suburban is just basically a truck with a permanent camper shell attached. No hoa would ever dare restrict those, as they would have an angry drunk on wine Stepford Wives mob carrying torches pushing baby strollers (all the same color and brand of course per hoa rule) at the hoa queen’s door “protesting”
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[Pew]

Take a drive around south san antonio there are no HOA's and the houses are literally falling over, and there are roosters running in the road, and people have junk cars and trash everywhere. Yards full of weeds, and pitbull chained up in the front yard. But they have their freedom lol.

On the flip side, my old neighborhood was developed in the 1970s with no HOA and you'd think it has one with how well maintained everything is. Then I drive down to my mom's neighborhood and people burn trash and leave rusted out cars in the lawns so it can be either or. With that said, I don't mind our HOA, the rules are pretty reasonable and common sense. HOA dues are based off your house size so since mine is one of the smallest townhouse models, I pay $160/month. They actually make sure everything is properly taken care of with the lawn, snow, outside/balcony paint, find people who don't pick up dog poop, etc. There are a few Karens that complain though (like small outdoor decorations) and that's when war starts between the two neighbors.

 

[AZjeff]

HOAs are basically for people who don't want to be homeowners. They're nothing more than huge apartment complexes.

This makes no sense at all. And since you're talking directly to me I take offense.

 

[aquariuscsm]

This makes no sense at all. And since you're talking directly to me I take offense.

Not talking directly to anyone. No names were mentioned in any of my posts. No offensive language or threats made whatsoever.

Everyone I know who loves hoa life are former apartment tenants who love apartment life because all you have to do is come and go. All maintenance is taken care of, thus the reason for moving into the pre-said environment. They want to live in a setting that requires zero maintaining, because they don’t want to nor like to maintain a property, yet want a slightly larger living area.

 

[Pew]

Everyone I know who loves hoa life are former apartment tenants who love apartment life because all you have to do is come and go. All maintenance is taken care of, thus the reason for moving into the pre-said environment. They want to live in a setting that requires zero maintaining, because they don’t want to nor like to maintain a property, yet want a slightly larger living area.

Is there a problem with that though? I love it, went from a house without an HOA to a townhouse with an HOA. I don't have to worry about anything outside (or waste my time with anything outside depending on the person.)

 

[aquariuscsm]

Is there a problem with that though? I love it, went from a house without an HOA to a townhouse with an HOA. I don't have to worry about anything outside (or waste my time with anything outside depending on the person.)

Absolutely nothing whatsoever wrong with it. Some people love it and some don’t. Different strokes.

 

[alarmguy]

Everyone I know who loves hoa life are former apartment tenants who love apartment life because all you have to do is come and go. All maintenance is taken care of, thus the reason for moving into the pre-said environment. They want to live in a setting that requires zero maintaining, because they don’t want to nor like to maintain a property, yet want a slightly larger living area.

No offense (really) but this is just people you know.
I don’t know anybody who lived in an apartment and loved apartment life, nor do I know anybody who lives in a zero maintenance property in an HOA community.

Except for some retirement communities, most all HOA‘s at least in our state if not condos are individually owned properties which you maintain yourself.

 

[brianl703]

Is there a problem with that though? I love it, went from a house without an HOA to a townhouse with an HOA. I don't have to worry about anything outside (or waste my time with anything outside depending on the person.)

I lived in a townhouse with an HOA. The ONLY things the HOA maintained were common grounds and the roads/parking lots. I had to mow my own lawn and maintain my own townhouse exterior (roof/gutters/wood trim/etc). For that they charged $40/month, which is probably about fair given what they actually did.

 

[wings&wheels]

Not talking directly to anyone. No names were mentioned in any of my posts. No offensive language or threats made whatsoever.

Everyone I know who loves hoa life are former apartment tenants who love apartment life because all you have to do is come and go. All maintenance is taken care of, thus the reason for moving into the pre-said environment. They want to live in a setting that requires zero maintaining, because they don’t want to nor like to maintain a property, yet want a slightly larger living area.

That arrangement only reflects a portion of HoA's; condo's and similar. Many around here are normal single family neighborhoods where individual owners are responsible for their properties w/ the HoA maintaining common areas and enforcing rules, e.g. we are 2 acre minimums and responsible to manage and pay for our own landscaping, lawn and plowing...

 

[AZjeff]

Not talking directly to anyone. No names were mentioned in any of my posts. No offensive language or threats made whatsoever.

Everyone I know who loves hoa life are former apartment tenants who love apartment life because all you have to do is come and go. All maintenance is taken care of, thus the reason for moving into the pre-said environment. They want to live in a setting that requires zero maintaining, because they don’t want to nor like to maintain a property, yet want a slightly larger living area.

You have no idea what HOAs do in single family developments. And when you make blanket statements you speak to everyone who applies, in this case everyone in an HOA in this thread.

 

[aquariuscsm]

You have no idea what HOAs do in single family developments. And when you make blanket statements you speak to everyone who applies, in this case everyone in an HOA in this thread.

Dude go get a coke or something.

 

[aquariuscsm]

You have no idea what HOAs do in single family developments. And when you make blanket statements you speak to everyone who applies, in this case everyone in an HOA in this thread.

So in essence you’re “offending” us scum and bottom feeders who don’t live in hoas? You think you’re better than us? I’m offended