Higher capacity option P7210

[Del64]

Hi good people,
I run a Mazda Skyactiv petrol 2.5 in the uk. The oil filter P7210 is a rather small 5oz or 225ml capacity metal cartridge. Given that the engine takes 5l per change.
Can anyone tell me how to find a larger capacity unit as even doing 6k oil changes instead of 12.5k dealer schedule the oil is very black on changing.

 

[blufeb95]

If there's room around the mount for a larger diameter filter, then find the size that fits all modern Hyundai/Kia engines that use a spin-on filter.

 

[charbaby]

GREETINGS!
More information is needed for me. I mean, is the filter a spin-on filter or cartridge type of filter?
Is that P7210 a Mazda OE filter? I don't see that part# here in the states.

 

[blufeb95]

GREETINGS!
More information is needed for me. I mean, is the filter a canister type filter or cartridge type of filter?
Is that P7210 a Mazda OE filter? I don't see that part# here in the states.

P7210 is a Bosch part number, it's the size of a Fram 6607.

 

[charbaby]

A FRAM 7317 is the next size up for that. Just as a reference/starting point.
I didn't know Mazda used this part # for their applications. I though that Mazda would use a Fram 3614 or the larger Fram 3600.

 

[blufeb95]

A FRAM 7317 is the next size up for that. Just as a reference/starting point.
I didn't know Mazda used this part # for their applications. I though that Mazda would use a Fram 3614 or the larger Fram 3600.

I looked through the OP's other posts it appears they have a 2018 Mazda6 2.5L, which uses the small metric filter. The 7317 equivalent may be the largest that'll fit it, because I just looked at a few videos on oil changes on these cars and it looks like there may be an obstruction to the side of the filter mount that would prevent the usage of the larger 3593/9688 equivalents that are typically used for Hyundai/Kia applications and some really old Hondas.

 

[PimTac]

What would be gained, another 100ml?

 

[blufeb95]

Also, if the oil is coming out black, a larger filter likely won't help, GDI soot is not readily filtered, so long as the soot isn't agglomerating and turning the oil to tar then black oil is normal on a GDI engine.

 

[wpod]

The oil filter is fine as it is.

 

[benjy]

girlfriends 18 2.4 Kia Optimas DI 2.4L is the blackest oil i ever seen in 6 month + usually under 5 thou!! a little costlier is a remote mount + a look at the WIx filter site gives details to help if theres room as noted

 

[dwendt44]

A FRAM 7317 is the next size up for that. Just as a reference/starting point.
I didn't know Mazda used this part # for their applications. I though that Mazda would use a Fram 3614 or the larger Fram 3600.

Early Mazdas used the Ford threading. When the agreement they had with Ford ended, they went to the metric threads.
The 7317 fits and works fine. Several levels of efficiency are now available with that size filter.

My 2¢

 

[Del64]

GREETINGS!
More information is needed for me. I mean, is the filter a spin-on filter or cartridge type of filter?
Is that P7210 a Mazda OE filter? I don't see that part# here in the states.

As I say it's a spin on cartridge but need to find out if there is a way to find alternatives if they even exist?

 

[Greasymechtech]

It looks like a metal cannister screw on filter.

Filter won't help with oil color. It will get black.

You'll just have to cross reference for the brands available to you. These are some cannister filter PN and their applications to help source cross referenced parts in your area.

And, its up to you to verify fitment.

Small:
https://www.fram.com/en/oil-filter-ph6607

Medium:
https://www.fram.com/en/oil-filter-ph7317

Large:
https://www.fram.com/en/oil-filter-ph9688


The below is what a 'cartridge' looks like.... no thread and no metal shell and no oversize options.
https://www.fram.com/en/oil-filter-ch9641

 

[Sayjac]

If the filter equivalent is the 6607 (seems likely), it's true the 7317 would be a reasonable upsize option, if space permits.

I'd add this though, if the engine the shedding more wear metals, insolubles than the 6607 can hold (holding capacity), at 6k or 12k, the engine would have bigger issues than filter size. That goes if k followed by miles or means km's. Especially so for the latter. If the engine has been maintained which seems a likely assumption here, I'm doubtful that is the case.

 

[Del64]

What would be gained, another 100ml?

That is what I am looking to work out, if all it gains is 2cm of filter height thus filter area in the pleats up by 20% it could be worth it, its a hard call to be honest.