I like it....I like how you think!Why not buy enough for two OCIs, then return it? This way you can run the premium oil for two OCI's, take full advantage of the extended OCI product you're paying a premium for, and have proof of a virtual OCI in between. I mean if you're going to cheat, go all out.
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I may be old, but I'm not senile..................
With premium it introduces a shear stable VII which 10w30 probabaly has nearly none of. And premium plus is for cold flow oils made with PAO. If cold flow is the goal 10w30 doesnt make much senseWondering why 10W-30 doesn't come in Premium and Premium Plus.
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That makes more sense yes. My warranty is 5 years/100,000 km, very few engines need a warranty these days for that period of time.
I could easily see my truck lasting to 15 years at a minimum, it might be the last non-electric truck I purchase.
The store link should be more prominent on your website. Maybe have a buy now or prices link that goes to the distribution website.
I seem to have ignited the honor/ignore the warranty requirements discussions here. I should have known better having been on automotive social media sites for almost 20 years. Was hoping that BITOG would be a little less rambunctious but seems I was wrong.
I got the info I wanted. But again, was not expecting the exuberance of the ignore the warranty reqts discussions. The industry I retired from was huge on verbatim compliance with the written rules. Being nuclear I embraced that and carried into my private life when it came to written requirements from a manufacturer who expected me to perform in a manner that they laid out for me. And throw in the Magnuson Moss warranty act, well then what would expect. Yes I know what some of the replies might be to that, but also remember, if the Manufacturer feels you violated the warranty, now you have to prove you didn't. If they do a UOA and the numbers pertaining to C20, or whatever spec you are supposed to use, aren't there or obviously different, one could be refused. And I can tell you that maybe the chances of that happening are extremely small, but my budget is infinitely smaller compared to theirs so why even take the chance.
Besides, the Mobil1 ESP X2 0W-20 is a very good oil AND actually costs less than the Amsoil or HPL prices for their product that I have been able to find. HPL-$16.95/QT, Amsoil-$14.99/QT, Mobil1-$11.67/QT.
Let the fire storm continue.
I got the info I wanted. But again, was not expecting the exuberance of the ignore the warranty reqts discussions. The industry I retired from was huge on verbatim compliance with the written rules. Being nuclear I embraced that and carried into my private life when it came to written requirements from a manufacturer who expected me to perform in a manner that they laid out for me. And throw in the Magnuson Moss warranty act, well then what would expect. Yes I know what some of the replies might be to that, but also remember, if the Manufacturer feels you violated the warranty, now you have to prove you didn't. If they do a UOA and the numbers pertaining to C20, or whatever spec you are supposed to use, aren't there or obviously different, one could be refused. And I can tell you that maybe the chances of that happening are extremely small, but my budget is infinitely smaller compared to theirs so why even take the chance.
Besides, the Mobil1 ESP X2 0W-20 is a very good oil AND actually costs less than the Amsoil or HPL prices for their product that I have been able to find. HPL-$16.95/QT, Amsoil-$14.99/QT, Mobil1-$11.67/QT.
Let the fire storm continue.
Pretty normal, and somewhat healthy actually. Mild really compared to some other discussions.I seem to have ignited the honor/ignore the warranty requirements discussions here. I should have known better having been on automotive social media sites for almost 20 years. Was hoping that BITOG would be a little less rambunctious but seems I was wrong.
Your question was clear as I stated - It's just not a cut and dry answer when opened up, so naturally there will be back and forth.
Carry on - no harm.
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After a motor flush with BG EPR, I'm now running HPL 5w20 in our old car and
it's purring like a kitten! Seems to make the old motor very quiet!
2003 Ford Taurus SES.
Some what over 149,000 miles on the old car.
Running great!
it's purring like a kitten! Seems to make the old motor very quiet!
2003 Ford Taurus SES.
Some what over 149,000 miles on the old car.
Running great!
Any BMW long life 01 fe?
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The thing about oil threads is most people have their favorites tried and true. Then you have some that don't have a clue. For whatever reason there's always gonna be the argument of which ones best. Which ones best is just like beauty being in the eye if the beholder. If someone asks I'll tell them what I use and maybe why, but thats my choice. If someone else says they use something else, thats cool, its their choice. The problems come in when someone that don't have a clue asks what they should use and someone offers advise and then someone says oh no, don't use that, use this. Just because I like a certain brand doesn't mean that everyone should use it and like it. Same goes with pour in additives, we all know there's a gazillion of them on the market. Some guys swear that every oil change I add so much of this additive and thats the reason I have x amount of miles on my engine. Personally I wouldn't do it but thats just me, if for whatever reason my oil isn't living up to my expectations I'll change brands, not dr up my own brew.
With all that said. I do like High Performance Lubricants Motor Oil.
But, that's just my personal preference.
With all that said. I do like High Performance Lubricants Motor Oil.
But, that's just my personal preference.
Mobil is a multi-billion dollar company with products on nearly every store shelf. Amsoil and HPL are after a completely different customer.
Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP with the latest MB 229.52 certification would satisfy the needs of many that are looking at HPL.
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Why post this in this thread?! Not sure what your agenda is, either try HPL or don't, simple to do.
Is Mobil 5w30 ESP on nearly any store shelf? No. Is HPL? No, either.
But HPL can be and is on anyone’s doorstep within 2 days, which cannot be said for the Mobil Xw30 ESP, depending on where one lives.
If you like your Mobil, you can keep your Mobil. Just like other people can keep their HPL, or whichever
Doubt it - 229.52 is low SAPS?
Understanding the Daimler MB 229.52 Specification
OEMs often go way beyond the ACEA baseline when publishing their own service-fill engine lubricant specifications. Here we discuss the Daimler MB 229.52 lower SAPS service-fill specification for high performance engines.
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Most of the HPL oils are geared towards super long drains with an unusually high level of detergency. Their Sulphated Ash level is likely to be significantly higher than most oils on the market.
I'm quite sure the ordering/delivery time for both oils is...identical.Is Mobil 5w30 ESP on nearly any store shelf? No. Is HPL? No, either.
But HPL can be and is on anyone’s doorstep within 2 days, which cannot be said for the Mobil Xw30 ESP, depending on where one lives.
If you like your Mobil, you can keep your Mobil. Just like other people can keep their HPL, or whicheverdoctoroil brand they want.
I’ve found most places with esp in stock on Amazon it is nearly impossible to get it in 2 days, partly due to Amazon’s shipping changes even for Prime members post-2020. At least it’s true when I log in and check the earliest I can have something on my doorstep. Even WM is 3+ days:
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